Thermal physics - how are Cp and Cv used?

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Afternoon all.

I've have the following equations:

Cp - Cv = nR = Nkb

Cv = nRf / 2

Cp = nR(2+f) / 2

CvlnT = -nRlnV + const

where f is degrees of freedom

Do the Cp and Cv just stand for pressure and volume (where both are constant), so for example can the first equation only be used for a system that is isobaric and isochoric?
 
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The subscript refers to the state variable held constant in order to measure the corresponding heat capacity.

The first equation gives the relation between the heat capacities - it would be used, for instance, to infer one from knowledge of the other.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_capacity

There's no special reason that a isobaric or isochoric process must be happening for the different capacities to be used. Heat capacities are a material property.
i.e. in an Adiabatic process, both (in ratio) are used yet pressure and volume both change.
 
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Ah ok, now the C makes sense.

So I might be given a value for Cp and what that means is: # moles of this gas was raised by # Kelvin/°C with the pressure kept constant?
 
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Yah.
The Cp, say, would be given for the entire sample though, and it does not have to be a gas.
It literally means that if you raised the temperature of the sample by 1 unit while keeping the pressure a constant, and without changing phase, then you used 1 unit of energy.

What counts as 1 unit depends on what units Cp was quoted in.
In SI units, that would be K and J.
 
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cool thanks simon
 
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A mathematically precise definition of the molar heat capacities which never fails is

Cp=∂H(T,P)/∂T

and

Cv=∂U(T,P)/∂T

where H is the enthalpy and U is the internal energy.

Chet
 
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1. What is the difference between Cp and Cv in thermal physics?

Cp and Cv are both measures of heat capacity, but they differ in the conditions under which they are measured. Cp refers to the specific heat capacity at constant pressure, while Cv refers to the specific heat capacity at constant volume. This means that Cp takes into account the work done by expanding gases, while Cv does not.

2. How are Cp and Cv used in gas law calculations?

Both Cp and Cv are important parameters in gas law calculations, such as the ideal gas law and the van der Waals equation. The values of Cp and Cv can be used to determine the internal energy, enthalpy, and other thermodynamic properties of a gas, which are necessary for these calculations.

3. How is Cp used in the calculation of enthalpy?

Cp is used in the calculation of enthalpy through the equation H = U + PV, where H is enthalpy, U is internal energy, P is pressure, and V is volume. Since Cp takes into account the work done by expanding gases, it is necessary to use in the enthalpy calculation at constant pressure.

4. How does the value of Cp differ for different substances?

The value of Cp varies for different substances and depends on factors such as molecular structure, temperature, and pressure. Generally, gases have higher values of Cp compared to liquids and solids, as they have more freedom to expand and do work. Additionally, Cp tends to increase with temperature and pressure for most substances.

5. How are Cp and Cv related?

Cp and Cv are related through the equation Cp = Cv + R, where R is the gas constant. This relationship holds for ideal gases, and for real gases, it is approximately true at low pressures and high temperatures. This means that for ideal gases, Cp and Cv differ by a constant value, while for real gases, the difference between Cp and Cv decreases as pressure decreases and temperature increases.

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