Thermal Physics: Interpretation of equilibrium constant

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the interpretation of the equilibrium constant ##K## for the reaction $$A\rightleftharpoons B$$, focusing on its implications for the concentrations of reactants and products at equilibrium. Participants explore the relationship between the value of ##K## and the behavior of the reaction, including conditions of equilibrium and the roles of Gibbs free energy.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how a backward reaction can dominate when ##K<<1##, suggesting that if the system starts with only ##A##, the forward reaction should dominate.
  • Another participant clarifies that ##K## is independent of the partial pressures and is derived from Gibbs free energy changes.
  • It is noted that if ##p_B = 0##, the system is out of equilibrium, and the reaction will proceed to establish equilibrium according to the value of ##K##.
  • Participants agree that if ##K >> 1##, the equilibrium will favor the formation of ##B##, leading to ##p_B >> p_A##, while ##K < 1## indicates an excess of ##A##.
  • One participant adds that the equilibrium constant changes if the reaction is written in reverse, leading to ##K \rightarrow 1/K##.
  • A mathematical expression is provided to illustrate how the partial pressures relate to the total pressure and the equilibrium constant.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the implications of the equilibrium constant ##K## regarding the concentrations of ##A## and ##B## at equilibrium. However, there is some uncertainty regarding the interpretation of how the backward reaction can dominate when starting with only ##A##.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the dependence of the equilibrium constant on the direction of the reaction and the implications of starting conditions on the system's behavior. There are unresolved assumptions regarding the initial states and the transition to equilibrium.

WWCY
Messages
476
Reaction score
15
For a reaction defined as such,
$$A\rightleftharpoons B$$
the equilibrium constant ##K## is defined by ##K = p_B / p_A##, with ##p## denoting the partial pressure (edit: at equilibrium). However, if ##K<<1##, which implies ##p_A >> p_B##, it is said that the backwards reaction dominates and that the container will be filled mainly with ##A##. ##K>>1## then implies the opposite, and the container will be filled mainly with ##B##.

Why is this the case? For example, if I had a container filled only with ##A##, which means ##K = 0 < 1##, how does any backward reaction dominate? Shouldn't the "A converts to B" reaction dominate?

Thanks in advance!
 
Last edited:
Science news on Phys.org
##K## is a constant that is set independently from the partial pressures. It is calculated by considering the change in Gibbs free energy for the reaction.

If ##p_B = 0##, then the system is necessarily out of equilibrium and the reaction will proceed from left to right until ##p_B / p_A = K##.
 
DrClaude said:
##K## is a constant that is set independently from the partial pressures. It is calculated by considering the change in Gibbs free energy for the reaction.

If ##p_B = 0##, then the system is necessarily out of equilibrium and the reaction will proceed from left to right until ##p_B / p_A = K##.

Does this also mean that if K >> 1, the reaction will proceed such that the container at equilibrium will have ##p_B >> p_A##?

Thanks!
 
WWCY said:
Does this also mean that if K >> 1, the reaction will proceed such that the container at equilibrium will have ##p_B >> p_A##?

Thanks!
Yes. ##K>1## will lead to an excess of B over A, while ##K<1## will lead to an excess of A over B.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: WWCY
I should add that the values of ##K## (or ##\Delta G##) apply to the reaction as written, proceeding from left to write. If you write the equation the other way around, ##B \rightleftharpoons A##, then ##K \rightarrow 1/K## and ##\Delta G \rightarrow -\Delta G##.
 
If P is the total pressure, and you start out with all A, then at equilibrium, the partial pressure of A will drop to ##p_A## and the partial pressure of B will rise to ##p_B=(P-p_A)##. So you would have: $$\frac{p_B}{p_A}=\frac{(P-p_A)}{p_A}=K$$This means that, at equilibrium, $$p_A=\frac{P}{(1+K)}$$and $$p_B=\frac{PK}{(1+K)}$$
 
Cheers, that cleared things up a lot!
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
Replies
28
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
5
Views
1K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
1K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
3K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
10K