Thermal transfer estimation (to simulate a game)

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on estimating heat loss in an airship mod for Kerbal Space Program (KSP). Key factors include pressure, wind speed, temperature, air viscosity, and thermal capacity of the atmosphere. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding heat transfer mechanisms, specifically conduction, convection, and radiation. It concludes that for lighter-than-air craft, the heat transfer through a thin envelope can often be ignored, and the thermal conductivity of hydrogen plays a significant role in heat transfer dynamics.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of heat transfer principles, including conduction, convection, and radiation.
  • Familiarity with thermal conductivity, particularly of gases like hydrogen and helium.
  • Knowledge of atmospheric physics, including pressure and temperature effects.
  • Basic understanding of the Kerbal Space Program (KSP) modding environment.
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the heat transfer equations relevant to gas dynamics.
  • Explore the effects of thermal insulation materials on heat transfer in airships.
  • Study the principles of convection and radiation in fluid dynamics.
  • Investigate the impact of atmospheric conditions on thermal performance in KSP.
USEFUL FOR

Game developers, aerospace engineers, and enthusiasts interested in thermodynamics and simulation within the context of airship design in Kerbal Space Program.

AngelLestat
Messages
25
Reaction score
5
I am trying to get a formula to estimate the heat lose in an airship.

Is a mod for KSP, things that have into account: pressure, wind speed, temperature, air viscosity, thermal capacity of the atmosphere, gravity, etc.

There are things that can be ignored as shape (or just use constant aproximations) wind direction, etc.

I was reading a lot, but I am not sure how to combine all heat transfer equations.

Theory: if I have an airship with higher temperature inside.
How the heat trasnfer works?

We have a heat transfer between the interior gas with the exterior envelope, (here the gas may be hydrogen and there is not external wind speeds).
Or maybe this step can be ignore?

Second step, heat transfer through the envelope (conduction), this step can be ignored too?

Third step heat transfer due convection and radiation from the envelope.
Here I have some doubts, I need to add these 2? In case heat transfer by convection is higher, then the surface will be cold, so heat transfer due radiation should be lower?
This taking into account that heat transfer from the gas inside is not so good as the outside.

What happens if the envelopes has a good insulator?
then the heat transfer is just the value which can cross the insulator and I ignore the exterior effects?

I want to be sure of this before show any equation. Thanks.
 
Science news on Phys.org
AngelLestat said:
Second step, heat transfer through the envelope (conduction), this step can be ignored too?
You're talking a thin enough envelope for most lighter than air craft that, "Yes," you can ignore it.
AngelLestat said:
Third step heat transfer due convection and radiation from the envelope.
Here I have some doubts, I need to add these 2? In case heat transfer by convection is higher, then the surface will be cold, so heat transfer due radiation should be lower?
This taking into account that heat transfer from the gas inside is not so good as the outside.
The thermal conductivity of hydrogen (and helium) is higher than that of any gases in which a hydrogen filled ship will be buoyant.

AngelLestat said:
then the heat transfer is just the value which can cross the insulator
Yes.
 

Similar threads

Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
3K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
3K
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 23 ·
Replies
23
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K