Thermodynamics Boltzmann Statistics

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The discussion revolves around a classical particle in a one-dimensional potential well, analyzing its average position in thermal equilibrium using Boltzmann statistics. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the derivation of integrals related to the partition function.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the transition from a sum to an integral in the context of classical systems, questioning the application of classical ensembles and the interpretation of continuous variables.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the nature of classical ensembles and the reasoning behind using integrals instead of sums. There is an acknowledgment of the original poster's moment of clarity regarding the problem, indicating a potential shift in understanding.

Contextual Notes

The original poster's confusion about the integrals suggests a gap in understanding the relationship between classical mechanics and statistical mechanics, particularly in the context of thermal equilibrium.

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Homework Statement


Consider a classical particle moving in a one-dimensional potential well u(x). The particle is in thermal equilibrium with a reservoir at temperature T, so the probabilities of its various states are determined by Boltzmann statistics. Show that the average position of the particle is given by [tex]\overline{x}=\frac{\int xe^{-(\beta)u(x)}\,dx}{\int e^{-(\beta)u(x)}\,dx}[/tex]

Homework Equations


Partition function, equipartition theorem

The Attempt at a Solution


I don't know where they get the integrals from, the partition function is a sum.
 
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It's a sum over all possible states. In the classical case, the states of a system is determined by the positions and momenta of all particles in the system. But position and momenta are continuous variables, so the sum becomes an integral.
 
He says right there: "classical particle". So you have to use the "classical" ensembles, namely the canonic one.

Daniel.
 
Do you ever look at a problem for a really long time, not having any clue how to do it, and then all of a sudden something just clicks? This is one of those problems.
 

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