Thermodynamics (Carnot Engines)

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The discussion focuses on the efficiency calculations of Carnot engines, specifically addressing common misconceptions in applying the efficiency formula. The correct efficiency formula is established as e = 1 - Qc/Qh, where Qc represents the heat rejected and Qh the heat absorbed. In the first problem, the error arises from misapplying the relationship between work and heat, leading to an incorrect efficiency calculation of 0.333. The second problem correctly calculates Qh as 8233.3 J for a given work output of 1900 J, but the initial efficiency calculation was flawed. The third problem illustrates the conservation of energy principle, where Qh equals the sum of work and heat exhausted, confirming that Qc = 350 J.

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1. The amount of heat that an engine rejects to the cold reservoir is 3 times the amount of work that it does. What is the efficiency of the engine?

e = W/ Qh = 1 - Qc/Qh

For this problem, I said e= w/3w. Thus e would equal 1/3 = 0.333. This however is not correct. What did I do wrong?

2. A Carnot engine operates between the temperatures 390 K and 300 K. How much heat is discarded for the engine to produce 1900 J of work?

e = 1 - Tc/Th
e = 1 - 300K/390K = 0.2307
e = W / Qh
thus 0.2307 = 1900J/ Qh
I solved for Qh and i got the answer to be 8233.3 J

This isn't correct either, but I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.

3. During each cycle a reversible engine absorbs 1550 J of heat from a high-temperature reservoir and performs 1200 J of work. How much heat is exhausted to the low-temperature reservoir during each cycle?

Qh = W + Qc
1550 = 1200 + Qc and then I solved for Qc. This isn't correct either.

Please Help! I am desperate and I really don't understand these problems.
 
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You're rushing through these and making algebra errors. How did you go from e = 1 - Qc/Qh to e = W/3W? What is the relationship between W, Qc, and Qh, according to conservation of energy?
 
peaches1221 said:
1. The amount of heat that an engine rejects to the cold reservoir is 3 times the amount of work that it does. What is the efficiency of the engine?

e = W/ Qh = 1 - Qc/Qh

For this problem, I said e= w/3w. Thus e would equal 1/3 = 0.333. This however is not correct. What did I do wrong?
Who said e=W/Qc?

It's given that Qc = 3W => e = 1 - 3W/Qh. Also, e = W/Qh.

Eliminate Qh from these two eqns and see how much is e.

Same for the other eqns.
 

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