Thermodynamics - Equlibirum State

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The discussion centers on the equilibrium state of a cylindrical rod divided into two compartments containing water and air, with heat exchange allowed. The rod is in an environment with a different temperature than the contents. It is suggested that while the rod may eventually reach thermal equilibrium with the surrounding atmosphere, at any given moment, it can be considered in equilibrium if the temperature and pressure of the water and air inside are uniform. There is a consensus that the system can be at equilibrium despite external temperature differences, based on thermodynamic definitions. The conversation highlights the nuances of defining equilibrium in thermodynamic systems.
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Hi there!

A question just popped out, during an exercice. Any help is welcome!

Imagine a rigid cilindrical rod that allows heat exchange!
The rod is divided in two compartiments. Say water and air. The division between them is not fixed and also allows heat exchange. Both the temperature and pressure of the water and air is the same. However, the cilindrical rod is in an atmosphere at a Temperature diferent from the air and Water.

My question:

Considering a system envolving the cylindrical rod, is the system at equilibirum?

Regards,

c.teixeira
 
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Hi c.teixeira! Welcome to PF :smile:

I think it all depends on when you are looking at the equilibrium condition. Given enough time, the rod will gain/lose enough heat from/to the atmosphere and finally be in thermal equilibrium.
 
Infinitum said:
Hi c.teixeira! Welcome to PF :smile:

I think it all depends on when you are looking at the equilibrium condition. Given enough time, the rod will gain/lose enough heat from/to the atmosphere and finally be in thermal equilibrium.

At any given moment when the temperature outside the system composed by the rod, is diferrent from the temperature of the air and Water of the rod!

My guess, is that YES, the system is at equilibrium, althoug the temperature OUTSIDE MY SYSTEM is diferent!
From the definitions of thermodynamic equilibrium, that is the conclusion I take, however, it feels strange!

Any other thoughts about this?

Thanks,
 
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