Thermodynamics: Freezing Point Depression

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The discussion focuses on calculating the amount of ice that separates when a solution of ethylene glycol in water is chilled to -25°C. The freezing point depression is determined using the cryoscopic constant, resulting in a calculated freezing point of -9.3°C. Participants clarify that as water freezes, the concentration of ethylene glycol increases, which affects the freezing point of the remaining solution. The key point is that the mass of ice formed does not change, as only the water freezes while the solute remains in solution. Ultimately, the concentration of the solute increases until it prevents further freezing of the remaining liquid.
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Homework Statement



200 g of ethylene glycol (HOCH2CH2OH) is dissolved in 1.00 L of water at 25°C.
The cryoscopic constant of water is 1.86 °C molal-1.
If the solution is chilled to -25°C, how much ice (in g) will be separated out?

Homework Equations



ΔT=Kfm, where Kf is and cryoscopic constant and m is the molality of nonvolatile impurity

The Attempt at a Solution



Calculated molality = (200/40)/1.00 = 5 molal
Freezing point = -5×1.86 = -9.3°C

But I suppose since the temperature is way lower than the freezing point, all 1000 g of ice would be frozen out?

Thanks a lot:)
 
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No, when the water freezes it is only water that is removed from the liquid phase, so concentration of glycol in solution goes up.
 
Thanks for your reply, Borek.
But how about the mass of ice? It won't change, will it?
 
Maybe I'll put it this way. Here's a simpler version:

20.0 g xylitol (C5H12O5) is dissolved in 1.00 L of water at 25°C. The cryoscopic constant for water in 1.86 °C molal-1
If the solution is chilled to -25°C, how much ice (in g) will separate out?​

I hope it's clear to you. Please help:)
 
I already told you what is happening. Water freezes till concentration of solute grows to the point when rest of the solution is high enough to prevent freezing. Amount of solute doesn't change, amount of solvent does.
 
hmm... as solute concentration increases, freezing point will continue to decrease. So why would you say
concentration of solute grows to the point when rest of the solution is high enough to prevent freezing
?
 
Sorry, it should read

concentration of solute grows to the point when it is high enough to prevent freezing of the rest of the solution

or something like that.
 
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