Thermodynamics Pathria Eq.4.5.9

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The discussion centers on the confusion regarding the derivation of equation 4.5.9 in thermodynamics, specifically the variables that define the internal energy U. The contributors clarify that temperature, chemical potential, volume, and particle number are involved, but only three of these four parameters are necessary to specify U. They explain the differentiation process needed to relate U to temperature, fugacity, and volume. The key steps involve setting certain differentials to zero and equating two expressions for dU, ultimately leading to the derivation of equation 4.5.9. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the relationships between these thermodynamic variables.
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I'm confused about the mathematics that led to the equation 4.5.9.

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Specifically, I'm confused about what the variables that describe U are.

From the equation

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I think temperature T(through beta), chemical potential (through alpha), V (through E_s) and N (through... restriction on the summation?) defines the (average) internal energy U,

but how should I do the differentiation? What I ended up was that the chemical potential dependence can be changed to the dependence on the fugacity z so that

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but it doesn't seem to be exactly eq.4.5.9 to me.
 

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I have the answer. It's going to take me a few minutes to write out the partial derivatives in Latex... ## \\ ## ## z=z(T, N,V) ##, so that ## U(T,z,V)=U(T,N,V) ## . ## \\ ## Three parameters are need to specify ## U ##, not 4 . Any 3 of the 4, (##z,T,N,V ##), can be chosen.## \\ ## Now using the first expression for ## U ##, ## \\ ## ## dU=(\frac{\partial{U}}{\partial{T}})_{z,V} \, dT+(\frac{\partial{U}}{\partial{z}})_{V,T} \, dz+(\frac{\partial{U}}{\partial{V}})_{z,T} \, dV ##. ## \\ ## Taking the second expression: ## \\ ## ## dU=(\frac{\partial{U}}{\partial{T}})_{N,V} \, dT+(\frac{\partial{U}}{\partial{N}})_{V,T} \, dN+(\frac{\partial{U}}{\partial{V}})_{N,T} \, dV ##. ## \\ ## Now, set ## dz=0 ## and ## dV=0 ##, and set the two ## dU's ## equal. Take a partial w.r.t. ## T ## at constant ## z,V ##, (we set ## dz ## and ## dV=0 ## ), =divide through by ## dT ## everywhere, and the result is the equation 4.5.9. ## \\ ## @Chestermiller This is a good thermodynamics problem that the OP has. Might you have anything to add?
 
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