Three Springs in an Equilateral Triangle

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The problem involves three identical point masses positioned at the vertices of an equilateral triangle, connected by springs. The scenario examines the oscillation of the system when the masses are slightly displaced towards the centroid, with a focus on determining the time period of oscillation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the forces acting on a displaced mass and the effective spring constant. There are inquiries about the direction of mass movement, the relationship between side length changes and the radius of the circumcircle, and how these relate to the resultant forces on the mass.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided calculations and relationships regarding the forces and geometry involved, while others are questioning the assumptions made in the initial attempts. There is ongoing exploration of the implications of these relationships without a clear consensus on the correctness of the derived expressions.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of the problem setup, including the implications of multiple masses and the geometric relationships inherent in the equilateral triangle configuration. The discussion reflects a need for clarity on the physical setup and the forces involved.

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Homework Statement


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Three identical point masses of mass m each are placed at the vertices of an equilateral triangle and joined through springs of equal length and spring constant k . The system is placed on a smooth table. If the masses are displaced a little towards the centroid of the triangle then time period of oscillation of the system is :
A)2π√(m/k)
B)2π√(m/2k)
C)2π/√(m/3k)
D)2π√(m/5k)

Homework Equations


F = -k x
ω = √(k/m)

The Attempt at a Solution



Consider one mass which is displaced from the mean position by x units. The two forces acting on it are k*x* cos(30 Degree) each inclined at an angle of 60 Degrees.

That would mean that the force acting on it is actually (3/2)*k*x, or the equivalent spring constant is (3/2)*k.

But that gives an weird time period which isn't in the options!
 
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agnishom said:
If the masses are displaced a little towards the centroid
"Masses," plural.
agnishom said:
Consider one mass which
It's necessary to solve the stated problem rather than an intuitive simplification of the statement.
 
In what direction does the mass move?
If S is the side of the triangle, what is the radius of the circumscribed circle?
If S changes by ΔS, by how much does the radius of the circumscribed circle change?
What is the tension in each spring if S changes by ΔS.
What is the resultant F of the adjacent tension forces on the mass if S changes by ΔS?
How is the resultant force F on the mass related to its displacement?

Chet
 
1. The mass moves towards along the radius of the circumcircle.

2. The radius(R) of the circumcircle is S/√3

3. ΔR = ΔS/√3

4. T = k ΔS/√3

5. F = k ΔS

Could you please tell if these are correct?
 
agnishom said:
1. The mass moves towards along the radius of the circumcircle.

2. The radius(R) of the circumcircle is S/√3

3. ΔR = ΔS/√3

4. T = k ΔS/√3
T = kΔS
5. F = k ΔS
F=2Tcos(30)=T√3

Now, combine these to express F in terms of ΔR.

Chet
 

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