Time derivative of 3D Spherical Coordinate

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In the discussion about obtaining the velocity vector in a 3D spherical coordinate system, participants clarify that the time derivative must include all components: radial, polar angle, and azimuthal angle. The velocity vector is expressed as v = (dr/dt)hat{r} + r(dθ/dt)hat{θ} + r sin(θ)(dφ/dt)hat{φ}. There is a focus on the importance of considering the nature of the system, as the angles θ and φ may not always be invariant over time. Additionally, the position vector is confirmed to be solely radial, represented as rhat{r}, since θ and φ are angular measures, not distance. The conversation emphasizes the correct formulation of the velocity vector in spherical coordinates.
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When we obtain the velocity vector for position vector (r, θ, φ)
Why do we take the time derivative of the radial part in the 3D Spherical Coordinate system only?
Don't we need to consider the polar angle and azimuthal angle part like (dr/dt, dθ/dt, dφ/dt)?
 
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You also need to consider the other two parameters, unless ##\theta## and ##\psi## are invariant in time. It depends on the nature of your system or problem at hand.
 
ebolaformula said:
When we obtain the velocity vector for position vector (r, θ, φ)
Why do we take the time derivative of the radial part in the 3D Spherical Coordinate system only?
Don't we need to consider the polar angle and azimuthal angle part like (dr/dt, dθ/dt, dφ/dt)?

Yes. v = \frac{dr}{dt} + r\frac{d\theta}{dt} + r sin \theta \frac{d\phi}{dt}

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_coordinate_system#Kinematics, second equation.
 
Thank you for the answers
But there rises another question, why does the position vector has radial component only?
Shouldn't it be rrθϕ? (r,θ,ϕ are unit vectors)
 
The position vector for the spherical coordinate system is simply ##\boldsymbol{r} = r \boldsymbol{\hat{r}}##. You cannot use ##\theta## and ##\phi## as they are in a position vector. The scalar components of a position vector should have their units as distances. The units of ##\theta## and ##\phi## are in radians or degrees.
 
ecastro said:
The position vector for the spherical coordinate system is simply ##\boldsymbol{r} = r \boldsymbol{\hat{r}}##. You cannot use ##\theta## and ##\phi## as they are in a position vector. The scalar components of a position vector should have their units as distances. The units of ##\theta## and ##\phi## are in radians or degrees.

Thank you!
 
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