Time difference of events when moving at relativistic speeds

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The problem involves two events occurring on different planets in a relativistic context, specifically examining the time difference between these events as perceived by an observer traveling at a significant fraction of the speed of light. The subject area is primarily focused on special relativity and the application of Lorentz transformations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the use of Lorentz transformations to determine the time difference between events A and B as perceived by a moving observer. There are questions regarding the application of time dilation and the correct setup of the events in different reference frames.

Discussion Status

Some participants are exploring the implications of time dilation and the positioning of events in different frames. There is an ongoing examination of how to apply the Lorentz transformations correctly, with varying interpretations of the results being discussed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of defining the reference frames clearly and the potential complications arising from the relative motion of the observer and the events. There is an acknowledgment of the need for careful consideration of the coordinates and times associated with each event.

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Lets say that Planet A and Planet B are moving in the the same inertial reference frame. The distance between them is 8.3 light minutes. Event A occurs on Planet A at t=0, and Event B occurs on Planet B at t=2 minutes. If an observer is traveling from Planet A to B at 0.8c, what is the time difference between the two events?


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I want to say that we just need to use the Lorentz transformation, plugging in 2 minutes as the proper time, but it's probably not that simple.
 
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probably not.
event A occurs at tA'=0, xA'=0 in planet frame (taking A as the origin).
event B occurs at tB'=2 min, xB'=8.3 light minutes in planet frame.

find out when these are in the moving frame tA, tB.

you get the piece due to time dilation, but also a piece due to the fact
that planet B is not sitting at the origin.
 
So if I use Lorentz transformations and say tA = γ(t'A - v/c2 xA), similarly for tB, I get tA = 0 obviously, and tB = -464s, meaning that Event B occurs 464s before Event A in the reference frame of the observer? I hope I'm understanding this properly.
 
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This should just be a straightforward application of time dilation.

Assume your ship's origin lines up with A's origin. x=0, t=0, x'=0, t'=0.

Now B is at rest with respect to A, so they are in the same frame, call this the ground frame.

Your event is going to take place in the ground's frame at (x=8.3 light-mins, t = 2 min).

Thus, use x'=γ(x-vt) where you plug in the ground's frame x and t from above. The x' that pops out is the coordinate where the ship observes the event to take place.

Use the next Lorentz equation: t'=γ(t-vx/c^2) where you plug in the ground frame's x,t from above. This will give the t' that the ship observes. If you get an overall minus on the t', that's okay, that just means it happened before the orgiins lined up in the ship's frame.
 

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