Time for which a vertical projectile stays motionless in midair

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The discussion revolves around the moment a vertically thrown projectile stops at its highest point. Participants explore the nature of this moment, questioning whether it can be considered a period of time or merely an instantaneous event.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the moment a projectile stops is instantaneous, not a measurable period of time.
  • Others argue that while the velocity is zero at the highest point, it lasts for zero time, suggesting that it is not a significant duration.
  • One participant emphasizes that the concept of zero velocity is not unique and compares it to other velocities, indicating a philosophical perspective on measurement and observation.
  • A later reply introduces the idea of using Differential Calculus to understand the limit of velocity measurements as intervals approach zero, suggesting a historical context to the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the velocity of the projectile is zero at the highest point, but there is disagreement on whether this moment can be considered a period of time or if it is purely instantaneous.

Contextual Notes

The discussion touches on the limitations of measuring instantaneous events and the philosophical implications of defining velocity at a point in time, without resolving these complexities.

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We know that if a projectile is thrown vertically, there will be a brief time when it momentarily stops. Can we calculate this brief moment?
 
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That moment will be an instant, not a period of time.
 
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Curiosity_0 said:
We know that if a projectile is thrown vertically, there will be a brief time when it momentarily stops. Can we calculate this brief moment?
It's zero seconds. It's the same for any other velocity on its trajectory.
 
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Curiosity_0 said:
We know that if a projectile is thrown vertically, there will be a brief time when it momentarily stops. Can we calculate this brief moment?
As others have said, the velocity is zero only instantaneously. These plots of the vertical motion of a projectile should help. See how the acceleration due to gravity is a constant negative value (-g)?, and how the velocity decreases linearly from the initial ##v_0## down through zero to end up being ##-v_0## when the projectile impacts the ground?

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https://cnx.org/resources/d7690f6d7871dafd158630fc8ea5b60846d9c9bf/PG12C1_007.png
 
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Curiosity_0 said:
We know that if a projectile is thrown vertically, there will be a brief time when it momentarily stops. Can we calculate this brief moment?
It will stop at a particular clock-reading, but that clock-reading lasts for zero time.

As soon as the projectile reaches its highest point it starts to descend, it spends zero time at the highest point
 
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Curiosity_0 said:
We know that if a projectile is thrown vertically, there will be a brief time when it momentarily stops. Can we calculate this brief moment?
We 'think' we know that. Reasonable enough because things happen pretty slowly at the high point it would really boil down to how quickly and accurately we could actually measure that velocity. Zero velocity is actually no more special than +1m/s or -1.05m/s. This was a problem for the old Physicists until the concepts involved in Differential Calculus were introduced. The theory is that you consider a smaller and smaller interval between two (imagined) measurements the limit as the interval approaches zero is the 'true' value of the velocity.
 
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