Time invarient pdf but nonstationary process

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The discussion revolves around the existence of stochastic processes that exhibit a time-independent probability density function (pdf) while being nonstationary, particularly in the context of stochastic differential equations (SDEs) and correlation functions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the possibility of a general stochastic differential equation that yields a time-independent pdf while the process remains nonstationary.
  • Another participant suggests that a stochastic process can have a constant distribution function with a correlation function that depends on both time variables, indicating nonstationarity.
  • A request is made for an example of a stochastic process where the pdf is time-independent (dp/dt=0) but the correlation function varies with time.
  • A Gaussian process is proposed as an example, with a correlation function dependent on both variables, specifically f(s,t)=1/(1+|s²-t²|).
  • A participant seeks clarification on the correlation function and questions how time can influence the correlation if the pdf is time-independent.

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Participants express differing views on the nature of stochastic processes, with some proposing potential models while others seek clarification and examples. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific characteristics and examples of such processes.

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There are limitations in the definitions and assumptions regarding stochastic differential equations and the nature of correlation functions, which may affect the clarity of the discussion.

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I am wondering if there exist some solution to the general stochastic differential equation (SDE) such that I get a time independent pdf(x) while the stochastic process Xt is nonstationary.. I really need some help with that..
 
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I am not sure what you mean by a general stochastic diff. eq. However, it is possible to have a stochastic process with a constant distribution function, but where the correlation function is dependent on both values of the independent (time) variable, and not just the difference - therefore not stationary.
 
OK, forget about the SDE .. can u give me example of a stochastic process such that the pdf (doesn't depend on time == > dp/dt=0) but the correlation has a time variable (nonstationary)? this will helpso much..
 
Gaussian process (mean=0, s.d=1) with a correl. dep. on both variables. For example f(s,t)=1/(1+|s2-t2|).
 
what's f(s,t)..
can u please tell me how to compute this correlation? if the pdf has not time in it, how come time appears in the correlation function?
 

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