Today I Learned

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This discussion revolves around the concept of daily learning, where participants share various facts and insights they have recently discovered. Key topics include the woodworking technique "oyster veneering," the mathematical fact that 23! equals 25,852,016,738,884,976,640,000, and the medical terms "hyperacusis" and "diplacusis." Participants also touch on humorous observations about life, such as the impact of television on weight and the emotional sensitivity of Barn Owls.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of basic mathematical concepts, specifically factorials.
  • Familiarity with woodworking techniques, particularly historical methods like oyster veneering.
  • Knowledge of medical terminology related to hearing, such as hyperacusis and diplacusis.
  • Awareness of cultural references, including the significance of historical events and figures like Muhammad Ali.
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the historical context and revival of oyster veneering in woodworking.
  • Explore advanced mathematical concepts related to factorials and their applications.
  • Investigate the medical conditions hyperacusis and diplacusis, including their causes and treatments.
  • Learn about the emotional behaviors of animals, particularly Barn Owls and their sensitivity.
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This discussion is beneficial for woodworking enthusiasts, mathematicians, medical professionals, and animal behaviorists, as well as anyone interested in the quirky facts of daily life.

  • #5,101
gmax137 said:
I don't think we have marmite in the US.
We do. I have Marmite and Vegemite in my pantry. Marmite is OK, but I have a preference for Vegemite.

I spread it thick like peanut butter. I also have it on toast with cheese or hummus, or in a Vegemite sandwich.
 
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  • #5,102
Astronuc said:
I've heard about injured POWs who used maggots to debride their wounds of necrotic tissue, then urinated on them to kill them when they finished clearing the dead tissue and to start the healing.
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  • #5,103
An advertisement for a lab job appeared a few times on Craigslist some years ago to work with maggots raised for wound debridement therapy.
 
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DeBangis21 said:
Today I learned that, in a biology lecture, leech is used in surgery, thus its name.
According to the Wikipedia article Hirudo medicinalis § Current, leeches can still be used to treat venous congestion after microsurgery, varicose veins, muscle cramps, thrombophlebitis, and osteoarthritis. Leech saliva contains anticoagulants and vasodilators (so improves blood flow), and also anaesthetic so the bites don't hurt much.
 
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DrGreg said:
According to the Wikipedia article Hirudo medicinalis § Current, leeches can still be used to treat venous congestion after microsurgery, varicose veins, muscle cramps, thrombophlebitis, and osteoarthritis. Leech saliva contains anticoagulants and vasodilators (so improves blood flow), and also anaesthetic so the bites don't hurt much.
I can attest that the bites don't hurt at all. More than once I've looked at my feet to discover fat leeches there. It's impressive how fast they can suck.
 
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symbolipoint said:
Still a current method or treatment today? Me, not sure, but I may not be well-informed. Today wound debridement therapy using maggots does exist; special care taken in rearing the young maggots.

edit: (excuse me for editing this. I forgot about the word, "maggot" so used the misspelled larva instead.)
No idea actually
 
  • #5,107
Today I learned that,
Galileo ever measured the speed of light, and again, by his pulse.
Oh
My
God!

And someone ever measured the speed of light by determining the time delay between one of Jupiter's moon eclipse.

Can't believe that. Four of Jupiter's moons are called "Galilean moon". How could a genius like Galileo missed that method?

But, I can understand that. Galileo was before Newton, and by that time, he didn't know the distance between Sun and Earth and Jupiter.
 
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That Galileo! What an ignorant stumblebum!

Measuring the speed of light with the Romer method requires, a) about five years between observations, b) a a heliocentric model (and five years after his discovery of Jupiter's moons Galileo was in enough hot water about heliocentrism) and c) timekeeping good to the few minute level, The latter didn't exist until Romer's time.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
That Galileo! What an ignorant stumblebum!
Plato? Aristotle? Socrates? Morons!

 
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  • #5,110
Today I learned what these are called on a carpet
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  • #5,111
TIL: This from NASA on Black holes, size comparisons with some nice dreamy spaced out music.

 
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Today I learned that,
I cannot [like] nor [comment] on YouTube video played in Physics Form windows.
 
  • #5,114
12+1 = 11+2, but today I learned that they are also anagrams in English:

TWELVE + ONE = ELEVEN + TWO

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mfb said:
12+1 = 11+2, but today I learned that they are also anagrams in English:

TWELVE + ONE = ELEVEN + TWO

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And "12"+"1"=11^2.
 
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  • #5,116
This works also. :wink:

TWELVE PLUS ONE = ELEVEN PLUS TWO
 
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BillTre said:
Wow. Who knew?
Me. But I was also surprised the first time I read it.
 
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Wolves, all kinds of seals, foxes, jackals, coyotes, ... all dogs.
 
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pinball1970 said:
For a newspaper ...



pinball1970 said:
... the Guardian can be pretty good sometimes.
For a little, very little moment I thought you would say Sun or Mirror.
 
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pinball1970 said:
I always thought that about foxes, they look doggish but move like a cat. I will check
Don't bother. I've checked searched the wiki page.
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They belong to Canidae family. It's dog allright.
Fox, I knew before. But Hyaena I just knew yesterday.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox
 
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TIL 40% Of mammals are Rodents and 20% are bats. Beavers, squirrels and chipmunks are Rodents but not badgers, minks, otters and wolverines. I had to check Wolverine, it looks like a badger nothing like a wolf.
 
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TIL, yesterday 09th May, in our PHY102: E&M lecture, that it is better to use the left ear for phone calls due to increase in EM waves around when on calls, and because the left ear have some protective...fluid(?)
 
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DeBangis21 said:
TIL, yesterday 09th May, in our PHY102: E&M lecture, that it is better to use the left ear for phone calls due to increase in EM waves around when on calls, and because the left ear have some protective...fluid(?)

Are you sure you heard that right? There is no research to back up either claim. Both ears are constructed the same but of course one could have some hearing loss making the other ear the preferred one for phone calls.

As an example, there Maniere's Disease that can affect hearing in one ear and sometimes both as it progresses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ménière's_disease

The fluid of the inner ear is the same in both ears.

Electromagnetic waves of mobile phones, are non-ionizing radiation and are generally considered safe at the levels at which we are exposed to them. Numerous scientific studies have been conducted and the consensus is that there is no conclusive evidence to link mobile phone radiation to harmful health effects.
 
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DeBangis21 said:
TIL, yesterday 09th May, in our PHY102: E&M lecture, that it is better to use the left ear for phone calls due to increase in EM waves around when on calls, and because the left ear have some protective...fluid(?)

Me thinks your E&M lecturer is a creative storyteller.
 
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jedishrfu said:
Are you sure you heard that right? There is no research to back up either claim. Both ears are constructed the same but of course one could have some hearing loss making the other ear the preferred one for phone calls.

As an example, there Maniere's Disease that can affect hearing in one ear and sometimes both as it progresses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ménière's_disease

The fluid of the inner ear is the same in both ears.

Electromagnetic waves of mobile phones, are non-ionizing radiation and are generally considered safe at the levels at which we are exposed to them. Numerous scientific studies have been conducted and the consensus is that there is no conclusive evidence to link mobile phone radiation to harmful health effects.
Thank you for the information.
 
  • #5,130
I've seen a few articles on using AI in combination with a hospital MRI machine to figure out what a person was looking at or generally thinking. TIL that reading a person's mind with AI may not always require an MRI and that the algorithms are getting sophisticated enough to understand more complicated thoughts such as sentences.

https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/a...es-brain-activity-into-diaglogue-173774917826

About 3 minutes in, the discussion turns to other ways to read a person's thoughts using more portable methods. I'm not familiar with the device that she mentions to know how 'portable' it is (I suspect that it's still big). However, she does state that it is using GPT 1 and goes on to discuss future, smaller devices like ear buds that could have this scanning tech installed into them. Given the advancements we're seeing in AI, the possibility of reading others thoughts may be closer than anyone realizes and the corporations building those devices may have direct access to our inner thoughts. Pretty scary if it becomes reality.
 
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