Schools Too Late To Make a Turn Around and Get Into Grad School?

AI Thread Summary
The discussion centers on a college sophomore majoring in physics and math who is struggling academically, with a GPA of 2.8 after two years. The individual is taking six math and science courses simultaneously, leading to concerns about their ability to gain admission to graduate school for applied physics. Responses emphasize the importance of focusing on current coursework and improving grades rather than worrying excessively about grad school prospects. It is noted that while top-tier graduate programs may be out of reach, respectable options remain available if the student can demonstrate improvement. Reviewing foundational courses to strengthen understanding is suggested as a beneficial strategy for future success.
Phyzwizz
Messages
58
Reaction score
0
I'm a physics and likely math major, heading into the second half of the first semester of my sophomore year in college. I started college taking all sophomore classes having placed out of all freshmen courses. I did poorly my first year and this year, thus far I have started off similarly, only now that I'm taking junior courses, things are more difficult. I attribute the main cause of this to poor time management as well as taking 6 math and science courses at once this semester. My GPA after my first year was a 2.8.
I've recently started doing research in the physics department and it's renewed the fire of interest in physics I had before college. The only question I have is whether it matters at this point. With such a poor start to college, would I ever be able to get into grad school for applied physics and eventually become a researcher if I turned everything around now in my courses? If I could, would the grad school be at all respectable? Would I be at all respectable coming out of grad school? Should I reconsider my plans for my future career?
I read a post from ZapperZ on grad schools understanding, appreciating, and factoring in grade trends for their decisions, but how low and late is too low and late to make a turn around fruitful, such that one can gain entrance into grad school and go on to lead a respectable career in research?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
6 math and physics courses seems like a bit much for a semester.
 
It matters, but you still have plenty of time to recover. I think they'll understand you took too heavy of a load. Still, it might not be a bad idea to have a back-up plan.
 
Phyzwizz said:
I'm a physics and likely math major, heading into the second half of the first semester of my sophomore year in college. I started college taking all sophomore classes having placed out of all freshmen courses. I did poorly my first year and this year, thus far I have started off similarly, only now that I'm taking junior courses, things are more difficult. I attribute the main cause of this to poor time management as well as taking 6 math and science courses at once this semester. My GPA after my first year was a 2.8.
I've recently started doing research in the physics department and it's renewed the fire of interest in physics I had before college. The only question I have is whether it matters at this point. With such a poor start to college, would I ever be able to get into grad school for applied physics and eventually become a researcher if I turned everything around now in my courses? If I could, would the grad school be at all respectable? Would I be at all respectable coming out of grad school? Should I reconsider my plans for my future career?
I read a post from ZapperZ on grad schools understanding, appreciating, and factoring in grade trends for their decisions, but how low and late is too low and late to make a turn around fruitful, such that one can gain entrance into grad school and go on to lead a respectable career in research?

First of all, didn't you get proper advising by your academic advisor before you went ahead and enrolled in 6 physicis/math courses in one semester? I mean, c'mon! 6 courses in one semester is bad enough, but 6 math/physics courses? Suicide!

Secondly, you will probably not be able to get into the high-powered, brand-name schools for graduate school. However, assuming that you do very well the rest of the way, you can still get into respectable graduate schools, and your poor grades will probably not stop you from getting such admissions. You just have to set your sights a bit lower.

But as I've stated elsewhere, because there are many different tiers of physics graduate programs, getting an admission isn't as difficult as surviving through the graduate program, especially in passing the qualifying exams. What you have to be very concerned right now is that you didn't do very well in the basic, fundamental courses in your first two years. The courses you will be taking in your next two years are all built ON TOP of your shaky knowledge that you obtained in those first two years! Doing well in those subsequent courses is far from being guaranteed!

So if I were you, I would not put the horse before the cart. Stop worrying about whether you'll get admitted into a graduate school or not. Worry about the coming classes that you are about to face. That is your most important and most immediate issues.

Zz.
 
  • Like
Likes Vanadium 50
ZapperZ said:
The courses you will be taking in your next two years are all built ON TOP of your shaky knowledge that you obtained in those first two years! Doing well in those subsequent courses is far from being guaranteed!

So if I were you, I would not put the horse before the cart. Stop worrying about whether you'll get admitted into a graduate school or not. Worry about the coming classes that you are about to face. That is your most important and most immediate issues.

This. There is no prize for getting through college quickly, especially if you end up learning less than had you taken it more slowly.
 
My adviser didn't actually advise me at all on my courses and course load.
Thank you for the advice everyone. I'm not so distraught as I was before, knowing there's at least a sliver of hope, given increased effort and better decisions in the future. Would it then be advantageous to perhaps go back and review courses I didn't do so well in the first year or so to reinforce the foundation that they create?
 
guys i am currently studying in computer science engineering [1st yr]. i was intrested in physics when i was in high school. due to some circumstances i chose computer science engineering degree. so i want to incoporate computer science engineering with physics and i came across computational physics. i am intrested studying it but i dont know where to start. can you guys reccomend me some yt channels or some free courses or some other way to learn the computational physics.
I'm going to make this one quick since I have little time. Background: Throughout my life I have always done good in Math. I almost always received 90%+, and received easily upwards of 95% when I took normal-level HS Math courses. When I took Grade 9 "De-Streamed" Math (All students must take "De-Streamed" in Canada), I initially had 98% until I got very sick and my mark had dropped to 95%. The Physics teachers and Math teachers talked about me as if I were some sort of genius. Then, an...
Bit Britain-specific but I was wondering, what's the best path to take for A-Levels out of the following (I know Y10 seems a bit early to be thinking about A-levels, but my choice will impact what I do this year/ in y11) I (almost) definitely want to do physics at University - so keep that in mind... The subjects that I'm almost definitely going to take are Maths, Further Maths and Physics, and I'm taking a fast track programme which means that I'll be taking AS computer science at the end...

Similar threads

Replies
16
Views
2K
Replies
7
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
3K
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
12
Views
3K
Replies
20
Views
2K
Replies
9
Views
3K
Replies
7
Views
2K
Back
Top