Trajectory of an electron traveling near a current-carrying wire

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The discussion focuses on the trajectory of an electron traveling near a current-carrying wire, specifically analyzing the forces acting on the electron and their impact on its motion. The magnetic field (B) is given as 50 x 10^-7 T, and the magnetic force (Fm) is calculated as 8 x 10^-20 N. The participant derives a formula for velocity (v) as v = 1.76 x 10^10 * ln|R|, indicating that the trajectory depends on the distance to the wire (R) rather than time. The conversation highlights the complexities of motion under magnetic influence, emphasizing that velocity is not constant but varies as a vector due to the magnetic force.

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Homework Statement
There's an infinite vertical wire which produces 5Amps. An electron is 0.2 meters apart with a velocity of 10^5 m/s in the same direction of the wire. The wire is creating a magnetic field which alters the trajectory of the electron. I need to know to the function which represents it.
Relevant Equations
Fm(magnetic force)=q(v x B) (charge times vectorial multiplication of velocity and magnetic field)
Without vectors it's just Fm=qvB
B(magnetic field)=nu/2pi * I/R (I=current intensity, R=distance)
nu/2pi=2*10^-7 (it's a constant)
B equals 50*10^-7 T (at first instance)
Fm equals 8*10^-20 N (at first instance)

I know Fm is perpendicular to the velocity, and I know the estimation of the trajectory (somewhat similar to the curve y=lnx).

Since I think vertical velocity will be constant, only changing the x component, I tried summing the Fm and the B formula, creating a bigger formula which I think represents the growth on the Y axis of the final desired formula dependent to R. That's what I want, not a formula that depends on time but a formula that depends of the distance to the wire (R).
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alesdiazdeo said:
That's what I want, not a formula that depends on time but a formula that depends of the distance to the wire (R).
What is the quantity your formula should compute?

I would describe the trajectory of the electron with an x and y coordinate, where:
x is the distance to the wire
y = the distance the electron has traveled since the start of the experiment. obviously (y = vt)

x will depend on t, an easy computation with Newton's second law (F = ma)
Using y = vt, you can also make x dependent on y.
 
There are no preferences, just calculation of the trajectory is my task.

Alright, so I inserted the B formula into the Fm formula and got Fm=1.6*10^-20/R.
Divided it by the mass of the electron and got the acceleration.
Did the integral of that and got v=1,76*10^10*ln|R|+C (which I assume is 0 since R=inf -> v=0)
I thought that was a good representation of the Y axis and the X axis could be represented by 10^5 (constant) but my friend tells me that v (on the X axis) also changes with time.

So I'm lost again.
 
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alesdiazdeo said:
Since I think vertical velocity will be constant
What makes you think that ?

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BvU said:
What makes you think that ?

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That the initial statement was that; but of course v is only constant in module, not as a vector, as it varies with F=qvB.
 

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