Transform formula into another form

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The discussion revolves around transforming a specific formula, indicated by color-coded parts, within the context of calculus and potentially hydraulic applications. Participants are attempting to understand the discrepancies between their workings and the expected results.

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  • Participants share their attempts at transforming the formula, questioning specific parts of their workings and the original text. Some express confusion over missing elements and potential errors in the formula setup.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the problem with various interpretations being discussed. Some participants have provided insights into possible errors in the original formula, while others are seeking clarification on their own attempts without reaching a consensus.

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I need help when changing the formula of the yellow circled part to red-circled part ...

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I tried , but i didnt get what the author got ... Here's my working ... Which part of my working is wrong ?
 

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@fonseh, many helpers won't respond if the problem statement and work are shown only in attached images.
 
fonseh said:

Homework Statement


I need help when changing the formula of the yellow circled part to red-circled part ...

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried , but i didnt get what the author got ... Here's my working ... Which part of my working is wrong ?
I cannot make sense of the text either. It looks quite wrong. Certainly a du has been omitted from the right hand side, and I cannot see how that 1-u term can appear. Perhaps the N exponent is in the wrong place. Maybe some approximation has been made, but that should be stated.
Your own working has y on the right instead of dy (=y0du).
 
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The closest I can get is ##\frac{y_0du}{S_0}[\left(1-\frac {1}{1-u^N}\right)## ##(1-(\frac{y_c}{y_0})^Mu^{-M})^{-1}]##.
If we use the binomial approximation for the last (...)-1 term, we get:
##\frac{y_0du}{S_0}[\left(1-\frac {1}{1-u^N}\right)## ##(1+(\frac{y_c}{y_0})^Mu^{-M})]##.
Multiplying the brackets out produces something quite close to the text. The remaining differences look like typos.
 
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haruspex said:
The closest I can get is ##\frac{y_0du}{S_0}[\left(1-\frac {1}{1-u^N}\right)## ##(1-(\frac{y_c}{y_0})^Mu^{-M})^{-1}]##.
If we use the binomial approximation for the last (...)-1 term, we get:
##\frac{y_0du}{S_0}[\left(1-\frac {1}{1-u^N}\right)## ##(1+(\frac{y_c}{y_0})^Mu^{-M})]##.
Multiplying the brackets out produces something quite close to the text. The remaining differences look like typos.
Can you show your working pls ? I tried it many times , but didnt get the red part , i gt (1-(1/u)^N ) instead
 
This is actually hydraulic formula , should i move it to another thread ? Or this is just purely mathematics derivation ? I'm not sure
 
fonseh said:
This is actually hydraulic formula , should i move it to another thread ? Or this is just purely mathematics derivation ? I'm not sure
It's fine here. The gist of the question is mathematical in nature.
 

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