Transform impedance of given network

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The discussion revolves around determining the impedance of a given electrical network involving capacitors and resistors. Participants explore the concepts of series and parallel configurations, as well as the calculations involved in finding the total impedance.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about identifying series and parallel components in the network, noting the importance of nodes.
  • Another participant clarifies that components are in parallel if they share exactly two nodes and in series if the same current flows through them without branching.
  • A participant shares their calculation attempt for the impedance, indicating that their result seems incorrect and questions their approach.
  • Another participant points out that the 1 Ohm resistor is not in series with the others, suggesting that it parallels the input and providing guidance on redrawing the circuit for clarity.
  • A participant provides a step-by-step calculation of the impedance, showing their work and arriving at a new expression for the impedance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct approach to calculating the impedance, as there are differing interpretations of the circuit configuration and the calculations involved.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the assumptions made about the circuit configuration and the specific steps taken in the calculations. The discussion reflects varying levels of understanding of series and parallel relationships in the context of the given network.

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I'm having trouble finding the impedance of the simple given network below:
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I know Z(s) of each capacitor is 1/2s, but I'm confused on what's in series/parallel.
How can you tell? I know it has to do with the nodes. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Components are in parallel when their leads share exactly two nodes. That means they will always share the same potential difference across them.

Components are in series when the same current flows through all of them (no branching!).
 
i attempted to do (1/4 || 1/2s) + 1 + 1/2s and am getting (s^2 + 3s + 1)/(s(s+2)), but this is the incorrect answer :\ what am i doing wrong here?
 
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magnifik said:
i attempted to do (1/4 || 1/2s) + 1 + 1/2s and am getting (s^2 + 3s + 1)/(s(s+2)), but this is the incorrect answer :\ what am i doing wrong here?

The 1 Ohm resistor is not in series with the others. This should be clear by the fact that it parallels the input!

You've got the 1/4 Ω resistor in parallel with the final 2F capacitor. This is correct. That net impedance in in series with the middle 2F capacitor, as you've calculated. But the final 1Ω resistor is NOT in series with the result.

If it's confusing, redraw your circuit after each simplification, replacing the simplified bits with a single generic impedance icon (say a rectangle to represent it).
 
ok, thank you!

(1/4 || 1/2s)
= (1/4)(1/2s) / (1/4 + 1/2s)
= 1/(2s + 4)

1/(2s + 4) + 1/2s
= (s+1)/(s^2+2 s)

(s+1)/(s^2+2 s) || 1
= (s+1)/(s^2+3 s+1)
 

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