Transforming Linear Algebra Equations: Solving for Unknown Parameters

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The discussion revolves around transforming a parametric representation of a line in linear algebra into an implicit equation. The original poster seeks clarification on how to eliminate the parameter \(\alpha\) from the given matrix equation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore methods to eliminate the parameter \(\alpha\) from the parametric equations. Some suggest directly manipulating the equations, while others introduce concepts like left-nullspace matrices. Questions arise regarding the implications of matrix multiplication order and its effect on the transformation process.

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The discussion is active, with various approaches being considered. Some participants provide insights into the mathematical reasoning behind the transformations, while others express uncertainty about specific methods and their applicability. There is no explicit consensus on the best approach, but several productive lines of inquiry are being explored.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of matrix operations and the implications of noncommutativity in their attempts to transform the equations. There is also a mention of potential complications when dealing with more general cases involving matrices.

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[tex]\left(\begin{array}{cc} 2-\alpha\\\alpha \end{array}\right) =\left(\begin{array}{cc} 2\\0\end{array}\right) +\alpha\left(\begin{array}{cc} -1\\1\end{array}\right)[/tex].How did you get rid of the parameter [tex]\alpha[/tex] to transform it into an equation?

thanks
 
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could you rephrase the question please?

transform what into an equation?
 
I know that [tex]\left(\begin{array}{cc} 2-\alpha\\\alpha \end{array}\right) =\left(\begin{array}{cc} 2\\0\end{array}\right) +\alpha\left(\begin{array}{cc} -1\\1\end{array}\right)[/tex] is equivalent to [tex]y = -x+2[/tex]. How do we get this? The first matrix, I know, is the point (2,0). The second matrix is a direction vector, but I don't know where to go from there.
 
Ah, I see. He's starting with a parametric equation for a line:

[tex]\left(\begin{array}{c}x \\ y\end{array}\right) =<br /> \left(\begin{array}{cc} 2-\alpha\\\alpha \end{array}\right) =\left(\begin{array}{cc} 2\\0\end{array}\right) +\alpha\left(\begin{array}{cc} -1\\1\end{array}\right)[/tex]

and he wants to know how to turn it into an implicit form. (i.e. the solutions to an equation)


There's a simple approach that works: just take the equations

[tex]x = 2 - \alpha[/tex]

[tex]y = \alpha[/tex]

and eliminate the variable [itex]\alpha[/itex].


There's a highbrow approach too, that (IMHO) is a good example to learn.

To simplify things, let me write the original equation as:

[tex]\vec{z} = \vec{b} + \alpha \vec{v}[/tex]

In order to get rid of [itex]\alpha[/itex], you need to multiply by something that kills off [itex]\vec{v}[/itex]: you want a good matrix [itex]A[/itex] such that [itex]A \vec{v} = 0[/itex]. Well, that's just a left-nullspace matrix computation! (i.e. the columns of [itex]A^T[/itex] are a basis for the nullspace of [itex]\vec{v}^T[/itex])

In this case, we get something like

[tex]A = \left(\begin{array}{cc}1 & 1\end{array}\right)[/tex]

And so the desired equation is

[tex]A \vec{z} = A \vec{b}[/tex]

which you can check reduces to [itex]x + y = 2[/itex].
 
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thank you Hurkyl.
 
P.S. why did I kill off [itex]\vec{v}[/itex] by using a matrix such that [itex]A\vec{v} = 0[/itex], rather than using a matrix such that [itex]\vec{v}A = 0[/itex]?
 
because multiplication of matrices is not commutative?
 
Noncommutativity is why the choice matters.

I can kill off the [itex]\vec{v}[/itex] term by finding a matrix [itex]A[/itex] such that [itex]\vec{v}A = 0[/itex], and then getting the equation

[tex]\vec{z} A = \vec{b} A[/itex]<br /> <br /> but for this particular problem, doing this is bad... whereas doing it the other way is good. Can you tell why?<br /> <br /> <br /> Edit: bleh, the full answer isn't as straightforward as I thought. Sorry about that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":frown:" title="Frown :frown:" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":frown:" /> It's easy to see why the method in this post won't work (<i>A</i> is degenerate: it has zero columns), but I'm too tired to explain why multiplying on the left works, and what to do in the more general case of something like:<br /> <br /> [tex]Z = B + \alpha M[/tex]<br /> <br /> where Z, B, and M are all mxn matrices, rather than just vectors.[/tex]
 
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