Translation Surfaces: Geometric Definition & Billiard Systems

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The discussion revolves around the geometric definition of translation surfaces, particularly in the context of billiard systems. Participants explore the implications of using non-convex polygons in the definition and how this relates to the unfolding of trajectories in dynamical systems.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the definition of translation surfaces, particularly regarding the non-convexity of polygons and its implications for billiard trajectories.
  • Another participant suggests that in billiard systems, neighboring rectangles can be used to represent the table, allowing for the identification of edges through translation rather than reflection.
  • There is a discussion about the unfolding process and whether it applies to non-convex billiard tables, with one participant questioning how this method works in such cases.
  • Participants propose that the translation surface can yield a torus under certain conditions, specifically when using a single rectangle, which is described as topologically equivalent to a torus.
  • One participant describes a scenario involving rectangles with a half-size rectangle removed, suggesting a mirrored layout to illustrate the concept.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of non-convex polygons in translation surfaces and the unfolding process in billiard systems. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of how these concepts interact.

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There are limitations in understanding how non-convex shapes affect the unfolding process and the generation of translation surfaces, as well as the assumptions made about the geometric configurations involved.

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In this Wiki article, a geometric definition of a translation surface is given.

I'm lost in at the first line were it is stated that a given collection of polygons need not be convex. How is this possible? I am trying to understand translation surfaces from the perspective of dynamical systems, specifically, billiard systems. In this setting we can 'unfold' the trajectory of a point particle. But surely this unfolding process only works for trajectories confined to convex regions?

I suspect my confusion comes from the fact that generating a translation surface from unfolding a billiard trajectory, and generating one given the definition from Wiki are different things. I also don't understand what is meant by $s_j = s_i + \vec{v}_i$. Are we saying that for every side in a plane of polygons, there exist some other side which lies in the same direction?
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Hey Joppy,

Here's my 2 cents.

Since it's about billiards, I imagine that we define a set of neighboring rectangles, each representing the table. Now we can shoot the ball, and instead of reflecting it against an edge, we let it roll into the next rectangle.
That does mean that various edges are actually the same, so they are identified with each other through a translation.

And instead of convex rectangles, we might also have non-convex polygons.
 
I like Serena said:
Hey Joppy,

Here's my 2 cents.

Since it's about billiards, I imagine that we define a set of neighboring rectangles, each representing the table. Now we can shoot the ball, and instead of reflecting it against an edge, we let it roll into the next rectangle.
That does mean that various edges are actually the same, so they are identified with each other through a translation.

Thanks! Yes that's how I understand it to work for convex polygonal billiards. I am curious as to how this works, if at all, for billiard tables which are not convex.
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Now turn those rectangles into rectangular prisms and we have a translation space.

Do you mean we fold up this mesh of rectangles into a prism? For example, if we have a horizontal trajectory inside the unit square, and we let it roll into four squares (so that we have four squares side by side), do we fold them back up to obtain a cube with two faces missing?

Supposedly, using this method of unfolding, some trajectories will yield a torus as the translation surface. I would like to know in what sense the translation surface is a torus (for this case).
 
For a billiard table we wouldn't be folding squares up into a cube.
Instead we have 4 neighboring rectangles. And when the ball rolls over a rightmost edge, it will magically appear on the corresponding leftmost edge.Same for top and bottom.

Now imagine a rectangle with a halfsize rectangle removed from a corner. We put again 4 such shapes next each to other in a mirrored layout. There we go.

As for a torus, we effectively get that when we have just a single rectangle. That is, it's topologically equivalent to a torus.
 
I like Serena said:
For a billiard table we wouldn't be folding squares up into a cube.
Instead we have 4 neighboring rectangles. And when the ball rolls over a rightmost edge, it will magically appear on the corresponding leftmost edge.Same for top and bottom.

Now imagine a rectangle with a halfsize rectangle removed from a corner. We put again 4 such shapes next each other in a mirrored layout. There we go.

As for a torus, we effectively get that when we have just a single rectangle. That is, it's topologically equivalent to a torus.

Thanks! :)

(I should have read this before asking..)

edit: This article is also nice, if anyone is interested.
 
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