Triac Heatup: 1000W Draw - Same Rate?

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This discussion addresses the thermal behavior of triacs in two separate 120V AC circuits controlling heat elements. In the first circuit, a triac operates continuously with a 1000W load, while in the second circuit, a triac operates at a 50% duty cycle for a 2000W load, effectively drawing 1000W. The triac in the second circuit will heat up more quickly due to the increased current during the shorter conduction time, despite both circuits drawing the same average power. Additionally, using a triac rated for 15A with a 2000W load poses a fire hazard due to potential overheating and the effects of non-zero crossing switching.

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Let's say I have two separate 120V AC circuits, each with a triac (15A) that controls a heat element. The first circuit has a heat element that draws a maximum of 1000W. The second circuit heat element draws 2000W. In the first circuit, I leave the triac gate on at all times, and in the second circuit, the triac has a 50% duty cycle, so that the total power drawn is 1000W.

If both of these circuits draw 1000W, will both triacs heat up at the same rate?
 
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Actually no, the one with the 50% duty cycle (estimated) will probably heat up more, because is is conducting the same power in less time. If this is 120V Branch ckts, the triac is undersized for the 2000W load. Also - there is pretty big variation between types / quality of triac dimmers, so running at > 15A is likely a fire hazard.
 
Assume the triac has a fixed resistance. Since power is I^2 * R, if there is twice the current, there is 4X the power. 4X the power for 1/2 the time is 2X the power (on average).

Also, if you do not use zero-point switching there will be additional power when the triac switches on.
 

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