Tricky radiation half-life question

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The discussion revolves around solving a problem related to the decay of uranium isotopes, specifically 235U and 238U, to determine when supernova explosions occurred that contributed to Earth's formation. The initial approach involved using logarithmic calculations and the reciprocal of the current isotope ratio, but the result was incorrect. Participants suggest using the correct decay equations for both isotopes, considering their respective half-lives, to find the ratio that equals the current 235U/238U ratio of 0.00725. A clearer method involves solving the ratio of the remaining amounts of each isotope after a time T, leading to a more accurate calculation of the time since the supernova event. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the underlying equations and relationships in radioactive decay.
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Hey,

I have been set this question as an assignment and I spent about an hour researching it yesterday and came up with what I thought was the right answer, but it has turned out to be wrong.

"A theory of astrophysics proposes that all the elements heavier than iron are formed in supernova explosions ending the lives of massive stars. If we assume that at the time of the explosion the amounts of 235U and 238U were equal, how long ago did the star(s) explode that released the elements that formed our Earth? The present 235U / 238U ratio is 0.00725. The half-lives of 235U and 238U are 0.704 x 10^9 years and 4.47 x 10^9 years."

Here is what I did.

Reciprocal of 0.00725 = 137.93
Used log to find that 2^7.1078 = 137.93
Multiplied 7.1078 by 0.704 x 10^9 to get 5,003,891,200 years.

But this answer turned out to be wrong. Can anyone guide me in the right direction?
 
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The exponential decay process is described by
n=n_oe^{-\lambda t}
where n_o is the initial amount of nuclei present (the same for both types) and \lambda is the decay constant of the particular isotope. Its relationship with the halflife T_{\frac{1}{2}} is
\lambda T_{\frac{1}{2}} = \ln(2)
 
lando45 said:
Hey,

I have been set this question as an assignment and I spent about an hour researching it yesterday and came up with what I thought was the right answer, but it has turned out to be wrong.

"A theory of astrophysics proposes that all the elements heavier than iron are formed in supernova explosions ending the lives of massive stars. If we assume that at the time of the explosion the amounts of 235U and 238U were equal, how long ago did the star(s) explode that released the elements that formed our Earth? The present 235U / 238U ratio is 0.00725. The half-lives of 235U and 238U are 0.704 x 10^9 years and 4.47 x 10^9 years."

Here is what I did.

Reciprocal of 0.00725 = 137.93
Used log to find that 2^7.1078 = 137.93
Multiplied 7.1078 by 0.704 x 10^9 to get 5,003,891,200 years.

But this answer turned out to be wrong. Can anyone guide me in the right direction?

Just telling us what arithmetic you did doesn't make it very clear WHY you did it. What equations did you have? What reason do you have for thing taking the reciprocal of 0.00725, etc. will give the correct answer?

We can take the "equal amounts" of U235 and U238 created to be 1. Since U235 has a half life of 0.2704 x 109 year, the amount after T years will be
U235= \left(\frac{1}{2}\right)^{\frac{T}{0.2704x10^9}}
Since U238 has a half life of 4.47 x 109, the amount left after T years will be
U238= \left(\frac{1}{2}\right)^{\frac{T}{4.47x10^9}}
The ratio of those is
\frac{U235}{U238}= \left(\frac{1}{2}\right)^{\frac{T}{0.2704x10^9}- \frac{T}{4.47x10^9}}= 0.00725

Solve that for T.
 
So could someone please tell me what the hell the answer is.

Thankso:)
 
Nevermind... got names mixed up. sigh. lol
 
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