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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving thin-film interference related to a kerosene slick on water. The original poster seeks to determine the wavelengths of visible light that exhibit maximum reflection and transmission under specific conditions.

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the relationship between the thickness of the slick and the wavelengths of light affected by reflection and transmission. They express confusion regarding the meaning of variables in a relevant intensity equation.

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Some participants provide clarifications about the intensity equation and mention standard formulas for thin-film interference. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the problem, with suggestions to refer to textbooks for deeper understanding. The conversation indicates that multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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The original poster mentions frustration with quantifying the effects of the slick, indicating a potential gap in understanding the underlying principles of thin-film interference. There is also a reference to the need for clarity on which formula applies to maximum and minimum intensity conditions.

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I have the following question:

A disabled tanker leaks kerosene (n = 1.20) into the Persian
Gulf creating a large slick on the top of the water (n = 1.30).

a) If you looking straight down from an aeroplane, while the sun is overhead, at a region
of the slick where the thickness is 460 nm, for which wavelength(s) of visible light is
the reflection brightest because of constructive interference?

b) If you are scuba diving directly under this same region of the slick, for which
wavelength(s) of visible light is the transmitted intensity strongest?

I understand that some of the rays will be reflected and some absorbed by both mediums. I found this formulae somewhere in my lecture notes but I am not sure what the 'I's mean: I/I0 = ((n1 - n2)/(n1 + n2))^2

Ive been trying to slug this question out for ages and its frustrating because i kinda know what is going on just don't know how to quantify it, help is much appreciated - cheers.
 
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In your equation, I_0 is the incident intensity and I the reflected ilntensity.
But that simple equation is for a single interface, not a thin film.
The derivation for a film is done in some grad EM texts.
(It is given as a problem in Jackson.) The results are:
a) The reflection is a maximum when \lambda=n_2 d=1.2X460 nm.
b) The transmission is a maximum when \lambda is twice that in (a).
 
ok thanks mate that really helps - cheers
 
You don't need to go to that depth to solve this problem. There are two standard simple equations for the wavelengths that produce maximum and minimum intensity in thin-film interference:

[tex]m \lambda = 2nt[/tex]

[tex](m + 1/2) \lambda = 2nt[/tex]

where m is an integer and t is the thickness of the film. One of these gives the maximum and the other one gives the minimum, but which one does which depends on the situation. I'm too lazy tonight to write a lecture about it on the spot, so look in your textbook for these formulas and read the discussion surrounding them (along with any examples). Or try here:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/phyopt/thinfilm.html

That page uses d instead of t, and includes a [itex]\cos \beta[/itex] to cover situations where the light isn't perpendicular (normal) to the film. In your problem, [itex]\cos \beta = 1[/itex].

After reading that stuff, if you have questions, ask away!
 
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Yes, those were the simple formulas I used. The complicated derivation I referred to is to get the reflection coefficient as a function of wavelength.
 

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