Trig Substitution (?) Integral

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around an integral problem involving trigonometric substitution, specifically using the substitution \( x = \sqrt{2} \tan(\theta) \). Participants are exploring the steps and reasoning involved in solving the integral.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts trigonometric substitution but encounters difficulties in reaching the final answer. Some participants suggest reviewing the substitution and drawing a right triangle to clarify the relationships between the sides. Others point out potential errors in the integration process, such as sign changes and simplification issues.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on the substitution process and suggesting ways to visualize the problem. There are indications of productive exploration, but no explicit consensus has been reached regarding the final solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the amount of direct assistance provided. There are also mentions of specific steps that may need clarification, such as the handling of secant terms and the simplification of expressions.

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Homework Statement



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The answer is:

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The Attempt at a Solution




I tried trig substitution, letting x =[tex]\sqrt{2}[/tex]tan([tex]\theta[/tex]) and using the identity 1+tan[tex]^{2}[/tex]=sec[tex]^{2}[/tex]([tex]\theta[/tex]), but couldn't get to the answer.

Thanks for the help.
 
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Show us what you did, and we can set you straight. That looks like the right substitution.
 
Now undo your first substitution, which was x = sqrt(2)tan(theta). It will be helpful to draw a right triangle (I didn't see one in your work). The acute angle is theta. The opp. side is x, the adj. side is sqrt(2), and the hypotenuse is sqrt(x^2 + 2). Convert your secant terms back to terms involving x, and see if that gets you to your answer.

Your work looks pretty good - I didn't see anything obviously wrong, but I just scanned it quickly, so might have missed something. When you get your final answer, check it by differentiating it - you should get 11x^3/sqrt(x^2 + 2).
 
You forgot to cube the root 2 in the denominator of the second term in the square brackets.

You're also off by a sign. You flipped the sign when you went from tan to sec when integrating.
 
I got it now, thanks a lot.
 

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