Trig substitution: integrate sqrt(16+x^2) over x

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the expression \(\int\frac{\sqrt{16+x^{2}}}{x}\), which involves trigonometric substitution. The subject area includes calculus and integration techniques.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of trigonometric substitution, specifically setting \(x=4\tan(t)\) and deriving expressions involving \(\sec^2(t)\). There is a mention of potential mistakes in the manipulation of the integral, particularly regarding the treatment of the square root and the resulting expressions.

Discussion Status

Some participants have pointed out mistakes in the original attempts, particularly concerning the handling of the square root. There is ongoing exploration of the correct approach, with suggestions for clarifying notation and considering alternative substitutions.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating through the complexities of trigonometric identities and substitutions, with an emphasis on ensuring clarity in notation to avoid confusion.

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Homework Statement



[itex]\int\frac{\sqrt{16+x^{2}}}{x}[/itex]

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The Attempt at a Solution



set x=4tant
dx=4sec[itex]^{2}[/itex]t dt

so after plugging in and using a quick trig identity I get:

[itex]\int\frac{16(sec^{2}t)*4sec^{2}t dt}{4tant}[/itex]

Then after a quick cleanup:

16*[itex]\int tan^{-1}t*sec^{4}t *dt[/itex]

I think I made a mistake, but if not, what next?
 
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skyturnred said:

Homework Statement



[itex]\int\frac{\sqrt{16+x^{2}}}{x}[/itex]

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



set x=4tant
dx=4sec[itex]^{2}[/itex]t dt

so after plugging in and using a quick trig identity I get:

[itex]\int\frac{16(sec^{2}t)*4sec^{2}t dt}{4tant}[/itex]

Then after a quick cleanup:

16*[itex]\int tan^{-1}t*sec^{4}t *dt[/itex]

I think I made a mistake, but if not, what next?

Best not to use ##\tan^{-1}## for ##1/\tan## since that may be confused with arctan. But write ##\sec^4(x)= \sec^2 x(1 + \tan^2 x)## and try a u - substitution ##u=\tan x##.
 
I think you've made a mistake, where has the square root gone?
 
I definitely made a mistake. I forgot the square root sign, which changes everything. Thanks!
 

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