Triple Integral: Convert from Cartesian to Cylindrical Coordinates

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around converting a triple integral from Cartesian to cylindrical coordinates. The original integral involves evaluating a function over a specified region in three-dimensional space, with a focus on understanding the limits and transformations required for cylindrical coordinates.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conversion of the integral and the appropriate limits for the cylindrical coordinates. There are attempts to express the integral in cylindrical form, along with questions about the correct interpretation of the region defined by the original Cartesian limits.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered hints and suggestions regarding the limits of integration, while others emphasize the importance of visualizing the region of integration. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct setup for the integral, with multiple interpretations being considered.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the region of integration corresponds to a circle with a radius of three, which influences the limits for the radial component in cylindrical coordinates. There is also a question raised about the specific range for the angle θ in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement


This is my last question about triple integrals in cylindrical coordinates.

Evaluate the integral by changing to cylindrical coordinates:

[tex]\int _{-3}^3\int _0^{\sqrt{9-x^2}}\int _0^{9-x^2-y^2}\sqrt{x^2+y^2}dzdydx[/tex]


Homework Equations


In cylindrical coordinates, [tex]x^2+y^2=r^2[/tex] and [tex]x=r\cos{\theta}[/tex].


The Attempt at a Solution


My converted integral looks like this:

[tex]\int _0^{\pi }\int _0^{\sqrt{\frac{18}{1+\text{Cos}[\theta ]^2}}}\int _0^{9-r^2}r^2dzdrd\theta[/tex]

This isn't quite right. Any ideas?
 
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Hi daveyman! :smile:

Hint: If |x| ≤ 3 and |y|2 ≤ 9 - x2, then … r what, and θ what? :wink:
 
[tex]r=\sqrt{18-x^2}[/tex] which, in cylindrical coordinates is [tex]r=\sqrt{18-r^2\cos^2 \theta}[/tex].

So would the new integral be

[tex]\int _0^{\pi }\int _0^{\sqrt{18-r^2*\text{Cos}[\theta ]^2}}\int _0^{9-r^2}r^2dzdrd\theta[/tex]?
 
daveyman said:
[tex]r=\sqrt{18-x^2}[/tex] which, in cylindrical coordinates is [tex]r=\sqrt{18-r^2\cos^2 \theta}[/tex].

So would the new integral be

[tex]\int _0^{\pi }\int _0^{\sqrt{18-r^2*\text{Cos}[\theta ]^2}}\int _0^{9-r^2}r^2dzdrd\theta[/tex]?

No!

Get some graph paper and shade in all the points for which |x| ≤ 3 and |y|² ≤ 9 - x².​
 
tiny-tim said:
No!

Get some graph paper and shade in all the points for which |x| ≤ 3 and |y|² ≤ 9 - x².​

It is a circle at the origin with radius of three. So the integral will be

[tex]\int _0^{\pi }\int _0^3\int _0^{9-r^2}r^2dzdrd\theta[/tex]

which yields the correct answer.

Thank you!
 
daveyman said:
It is a circle at the origin with radius of three. So the integral will be

[tex]\int _0^{\pi }\int _0^3\int _0^{9-r^2}r^2dzdrd\theta[/tex]

which yields the correct answer.

Yup! :biggrin:

The moral of this … always draw the region first …

it's almost impossible to work out the limits without a diagram

(though of course, you must then prove them without a diagram … but that's much easier once the diagram has told you the answer! :wink:)​
 
Hey- I know this is quite an old thread... But just wondering how you know that the dθ part is between 0 and pi??
Cheers
 

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