Trouble finding the amplitude in a SHM problem

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a horizontal spring-mass system with a spring constant of 10.0 N/m and an 80.0 gram mass. The spring is initially extended by 1.30 cm, and the mass has a velocity of 54.1 cm/s in the negative x direction. The tasks include finding angular frequency, linear frequency, period, and amplitude.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using conservation of energy to find amplitude but express uncertainty about energy definitions. Others suggest evaluating position and velocity equations at specific times to find amplitude.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on evaluating the position and velocity at time t=0, while others are exploring the implications of using maximum velocity in their calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the variables involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the need to set equations equal to known values and the implications of using maximum velocity at different positions of the spring.

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Homework Statement


a horizontal spring-mass is composed of a spring with constant 10.0 N/m and an 80.0 gram mass on the end of the spring. the surface supporting the mass is friction less. when the system is first observed, the spring is extended 1.30 cm and the velocity of the mass is 54.1 cm/s in the negative x direction
a. find angular frequency, linear frequency, and the period.
b. apply the given info and your results from part a to find the values for Xsub m, and Φsub m.

Homework Equations


w=sqrt(k/m), f= w/2pi, and t=1/f
x=Acos(w+Φ)

The Attempt at a Solution


i found w=11.2 f=1.78 and t=.56
for part b i seem to be totally stuck, i would really appreciate a push towards the right direction.
i looking at conservation of energy to find the amplitude but i don't know what energy is so i get stuck with two unknowns.
 
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Hi frozen-pizza and welcome to PF.
You don't need energy. Just evaluate x(t) and dx/dt at t = 0 and set them equal to the given values.
 
for amplitude i used Vmax=Aw so A=.541/11.2 and i seem to get the right answer, is this right or just a coincidence?
 
What did you use for vmax? You are not given its value.
 
54.1 cm/s
 
That's the velocity when the spring is at position 1.30 cm. The speed is maximum when the spring is unstretched at the equilibrium position.
 
yea that makes sense, it just happened to work out then.
ok so if i set x(t)=0 is x(t)=Acos(0+Φ)? if so do i have to set it equal to 1.30 cm?
 
frozen-pizza said:
k so if i set x(t)=0 is x(t)=Acos(0+Φ)? if so do i have to set it equal to 1.30 cm?
Yes. Then evaluate the derivative at t = 0 and set it equal to -54.1 cm/s. Solve the system of two equations and two unknowns.
 
I see thank you so much
 

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