Trouble solving a differential equation

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The discussion revolves around solving the differential equation \(\left (\frac{\partial f}{\partial x} \right )^2+ \left( \frac{\partial f}{\partial y} \right )^2=0\), focusing on the implications for the function \(f(x,y)\) and the nature of its partial derivatives. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and exploratory approaches to the problem.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about solving the equation for \(f(x,y)\).
  • Another suggests factoring the equation using complex numbers, drawing a parallel to a similar equation involving \(x^2 + y^2 = 0\).
  • It is noted that both terms in the equation are non-negative, leading to the conclusion that both partial derivatives must be zero.
  • A participant questions what the condition of the partial derivatives being zero implies about the function \(f\), suggesting it may indicate that \(f\) is constant.
  • Another participant agrees that if the partial derivatives vanish, \(f\) could be constant.
  • However, an alternative viewpoint is presented with the example \(f(x,y) = \exp(x)\exp(i*y)\), where the first derivatives are not constant, yet their squares sum to zero.
  • This participant argues that \(f\) must be constant only if the first partial derivatives are real-valued functions, as the squared terms must be zero.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of the equation. While some suggest that the condition leads to \(f\) being constant, others challenge this by providing examples of non-constant functions that satisfy the equation.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the dependence on the nature of the partial derivatives (real vs. complex) and the assumptions regarding the function \(f\). There are unresolved aspects regarding the conditions under which \(f\) can be considered constant.

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Readers interested in differential equations, mathematical analysis, and the implications of partial derivatives in multivariable calculus may find this discussion relevant.

rmas
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Hi,

How can I solve this equation (finding f(x,y)) ?

\left (\frac{\partial f}{\partial x} \right )^2+ \left( \frac{\partial f}{\partial y} \right )^2=0

Thanks a lot.
 
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Can't you factor that with some i's? You know, like if I had:

(x^2+y^2)=0 and I wanted to factor it, then I'd write:

(x+iy)(x-iy)=0

Then that means:

(x+iy)=0

or:

x-iy=0

Ok, same dif then. Now do yours.

Nothing wrong with complex solutions. Try not to be intimidated by them.
 
Both term in the equation are greater than or equal to zero, so the equation says that they must both be zero and hence:
<br /> \frac{\partial f}{\partial x}=\frac{\partial f}{\partial y}=0<br />
So what does this say about f?
 
Thank you very much jackmell, that is very helpful.

hunt_mat said:
Both term in the equation are greater than or equal to zero, so the equation says that they must both be zero and hence:
<br /> \frac{\partial f}{\partial x}=\frac{\partial f}{\partial y}=0<br />
So what does this say about f?
The partial derivatives vanish, I suppose it means that f is constant ?
 
Yep.
 
What about f(x,y) = exp(x)exp(i*y)

Then first derivative w.r.t. x is just f(x,y)

First derivative w.r.t. y is i*f(x,y)

Sum of their squares is zero, yet they are not constant.

f is necessarily constant under the constraint that f has first partial derivatives which are functions mapping to the real numbers. Then the two squared terms are necessarily zero or greater, so must be zero. Then f would have to be constant.
 

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