Trying to get a microphone to produce a signal

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around troubleshooting a condenser microphone that is not producing a signal when connected to a breadboard. Participants explore the requirements for bias voltage, potential measurement issues, and the characteristics of the microphone in question.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the condenser microphone is not producing a voltage or signal despite attempts to use it.
  • Another participant suggests that the microphone may output a voltage lower than the sensitivity of the measuring meter.
  • It is proposed that condenser microphones require a bias voltage to function properly.
  • Questions arise about how to apply bias voltage to the microphone.
  • Participants discuss the concept of "Phantom Power" and its role in supplying bias voltage through the microphone cable.
  • There is a query regarding the appropriate level of bias voltage needed for the microphone.
  • One participant mentions that the standard bias voltage for professional audio applications is typically 48V, with provisions for lower voltages.
  • Another participant suggests checking the microphone's datasheet for specific voltage and current requirements.
  • There is a discussion on how to determine if the microphone is functioning, with suggestions to observe output voltage changes when speaking into it.
  • Some participants mention that various condenser microphones may operate on different bias voltages, including those powered by batteries.
  • One participant reveals that the microphone was removed from a Level 6 sound meter, which raises questions about whether it has a built-in preamplifier.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that condenser microphones require bias voltage, but there is no consensus on the specific voltage needed or the characteristics of the microphone in question. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact requirements and functionality of the microphone.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the unknown specifications of the microphone removed from the sound meter, as well as uncertainty about whether the sound meter included a built-in preamplifier.

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I removed a condenser microphone
From a sound meter. I plug it in a breadboard. But the Condenser microphone won't produce a voltage or signal. I tried yelling into the microphone. I tried Connecting a battery to circuit. Nothing I tried worked. Anyway to get microphone to pick up signal?
 
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Any chance the mic is putting out far less voltage than the sensitivity of the meter that you are measuring it with?
 
The multimeter I have can measure as
Little as a millivolt I think. How do you apply bias voltage to the microphone?
 
Condenser microphones need bias (as Jim said).

This called "Phantom Power" and the bias comes through the microphone cable and is supplied by the mixer or the audio interface (typically only higher-end mixing consoles will provide phantom power.

Here is a Wikipedia article on Phantom Power that includes a schematic for how you can supply some to your microphone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_power
 
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How high should the bias voltage be?
 
For professional audio applications the standard is 48V, although I think the standard has provisions for 24V and 12V. Other devices may have different requirements. Can you look up the datasheet for whatever microphone you have? If you can't find out, I would try a low voltage and slowly increase until the mic comes to life.

Hopefully you can identify the specific microphone because you also have to make sure you can accommodate its bias current requirements as well as voltage.
 
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How do I tell if microphone comes to life?
 
talk into it and see if the output voltage wiggles?
 
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many condenser microphones use only a volt or two or three. I've seen some with watch batteries some with AA cells inside.
Some use around 9 volts per the Audio-Technica article below.

see
https://blog.audio-technica.com/what-is-bias-voltage/

can you figure out what the device you took it out of provided?
 
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It was a Lv 6 sound meter I bought at
Walmart. I don't know the model.
 
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