B Twin Paradox (3 objects version)

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The discussion centers on the Twin Paradox involving three objects, A, B, and C, moving relative to each other. Participants analyze the timing of events as B passes A and C passes B, raising questions about what A's clock reads during these events. It is emphasized that the answers depend on the chosen inertial frame, leading to different results for A's clock at Event 2 and Event 3. The importance of using Lorentz transformations and accounting for the relativity of simultaneity is highlighted, as participants seek clarity on their calculations. Ultimately, the conversation underscores the complexity of special relativity and the necessity of precise mathematical approaches to resolve apparent contradictions.
  • #31
Sagittarius A-Star said:
Equation (1) would also be valid, if I had chosen the same event as origin for both frames.
Yes. This is in agreement with what I said. Just remove the ##\Delta##s from Equation (1) and you have the Lorentz transformation bewteen the two frames when they both have the same event as the origin.
 
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  • #32
PeterDonis said:
Just remove the ##\Delta##s from Equation (1) and you have the Lorentz transformation bewteen the two frames when they both have the same event as the origin.
Yes. If ##\Delta x## gets replaced by ##x## (and the same for y, z, t coordinates) , this means, that ##x_2 - x_1## gets replaced by ##x - 0##. This would be equivalent to defining the origin as one of the two events.

Source for Lorentz transformation of deltas and differentials (equations 7 and 8):
http://www.scholarpedia.org/article...nematics#Galilean_and_Lorentz_transformations
 
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  • #33
Of course, Minkowski space is not only a Lorentzian vector space but an affine manifold with the translations as additional symmetry, i.e., the complete continuous symmetry group is the proper orthochronous Poincare group, including space-time translations.
 

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