Two athletes time compensation

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The discussion revolves around determining the conditions under which two athletes, starting at different times, experience time compensation in different reference frames. The key question is identifying the time difference, delta T, that results in either a reference frame S' with no compensation or one with real compensation. Participants suggest that for no compensation, the starting guns must fire simultaneously, implying delta T equals zero. The Lorentz transformation is necessary to analyze the relationship between the two frames and the events' space-time positions. Clarification on the problem's translation and understanding of "compensation" is also sought among participants.
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In a reference system S two athletes are aligned at a distance d relative to each other on the Y axis to make a run parallel to the x axis. Two starters, one next to each athlete, shoot their guns out at slightly different times, offsetting the advantage of better athlete. The time difference in S is delta T. For which time difference there will be a reference system S 'in which there is not compensation, and which time difference there is a reference system S' in which there is a real compensation ?.
Determine explicitly the Lorentz transformation that leads to S' suitable for each of the possibilities listed above, calculating the speed of S' to S and the space-time positions (events) of each athlete in the S system.

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Lorentz tranformation Equation

The Attempt at a Solution



I don´t really understand the exercise, but firs I think you must asume that the coordenates of one of the athletes are at the origin, and the other has the displacement d.
r1=(ct1,0,0,0)
r2=(ct2, d,0,0)

When you have two events ussually you use the space time interval

(delta S)^2 =(ct2-ct1)^2-(x2-x1)^2-(y2-y1)^2-(z2-z1)^2

But i don't understant what it means no compensation real compensation?
 
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I don't understand the question either. I think it's asking for a frame where the starting guns fire simultaneously, but the rest is confusing.
 
PeroK said:
I don't understand the question either. I think it's asking for a frame where the starting guns fire simultaneously, but the rest is confusing.
Maybe there are some problem with translation, the problem is in spanish, but I agree, if there is no compensation from S' the two starting guns fire simultaneously, so delta t must be zero. So

Δs^2 < 0
But how I show this?
 
Andremag12 said:
Maybe there are some problem with translation, the problem is in spanish, but I agree, if there is no compensation from S' the two starting guns fire simultaneously, so delta t must be zero. So

Δs^2 < 0
But how I show this?
I'm going offline now but perhaps someone else can help.

You need to think of your starting coordinates and what direction S' needs to move.
 
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