Two Different Masses on an Uncentered Fulcrum (Torque)

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The discussion centers on calculating the initial tangential acceleration of two masses suspended from an uncentered fulcrum. The masses, each weighing 1.9 kg, are attached to a rigid rod of lengths 1.43 m and 0.085 m. The user initially derived the equation for torque, T = L1mg + L2mg = Ia, and calculated the angular acceleration as 7.23 rad/s². The final clarification involved correcting the equation to g(-L1 + L2) * L1 / (L1² + L2²) to accurately derive the tangential acceleration.

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[Solved] Two Different Masses on an Uncentered Fulcrum (Torque)

Homework Statement



Two blocks each of mass 1.9 kg are suspended from the ends of a rigid weightless rod of length l1 = 1.43 m and l2 = .085 m. The rod is held in the horizontal position shown and then released. Calculate the initial acceleration of the mass attached to l1. Assume up is positive and down is negative.

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Also to clarify, the problem is asking for tangential acceleration

Homework Equations


T = r x F
T = Ia
A = ar
I = mr2





The Attempt at a Solution



First I summed the torque of the two sides
T = L1mg + L2mg = Ia
where mg is the force acting on the mass on each side and L1 and L2 are the radii.

For the moment of Inertia I, I used the point mass formula (I = mr2)
But that would apply for the system, so I added the two moment of Inertia for the two sides
I = mr12 + mr22

Doing some algebra to move the variables around I came up with
g(L1+L2)
----------- = a
(L12 + L22)

Putting in my numbers yielded me

9.8*(1.43+.085)/(1.432+.0852) = a = 7.23 rad/s2

Then after that I would need to divide 7.23 by the radius, r, to get the tangential acceleration. But I'm not sure which r I would use. r = L1? or r = (L1+L2)/2?


Anyway, that's what I came up with. I'm guessing there are a lot of mistakes in here, but I'm not sure what I did right and what I did wrong.

Any help pointing me in the correct direction would be great! :)
 
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Nevermind, I found out the answer. It seems I was pretty close. I needed to make my equation
g(-L1+L2) *L1
--------------- = A (or alpha *r)
(L1^2 + L2^2)

The thing that was throwing me off was multiplying it by L1 instead of dividing it by L1. But I understand now. My original equation solved alpha.
Then by multiplying both sides by L1 you get what I have above on the left is equal to alpha * r (which = tangential acceleration)
 

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