Two Poisson distributed random variables

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the probability P(X-Y=0) for two Poisson distributed random variables. Participants explore the implications of the Skellam distribution and the conditions under which the probability may equal one.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the nature of the difference between two Poisson variables and the relevance of the Skellam distribution. Questions arise regarding the assumptions of independence and the implications of specific conditions on the equality of the random variables.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants have provided insights into the conditions under which P(X-Y=0) could equal one, while others question the validity of such assumptions in general cases.

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There is mention of a multiple-choice question that suggests P(X-Y=0)=1, which some participants are trying to understand and critique. The lack of a verbatim problem statement is noted as a potential source of confusion.

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Homework Statement
Have two Poisson distributed random variables, with parameter ##\lambda##=2
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How do I evaluate
P(X-Y=0)=?
 
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It's a little tricky. The difference of two Poisson variables is a Skellam distribution (as opposed to a sum of Poisson variables, which is just another Poisson variable with parameter ##\lambda_1 + \lambda_2##), so if you want you could look up the formulae for that.

You can try and work it out for yourself, however, by considering$$P(X = Y) = \sum_{k=0}^{\infty} P(X=k)P(Y=k) = \dots$$You will end up with an infinite sum for which you will require a modified Bessel function of the first kind, $$I_0(t) = \sum_{k=0}^{\infty} \frac{(\frac{1}{2}t)^{2k}}{(k!)^2}$$
 
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You can't say anything with the information given. For example, if ##X = Y## are such random variables then ##\Bbb{P}(X-Y = 0) = \Bbb{P}(X=Y) = 1## but in general it is possible that ##\Bbb{P}(X - Y=0) < 1##.

Probably, you want to ask about the case where ##X## and ##Y## are independent. Then as @etotheipi this follows a Skellam distribution.
 
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it was a question in a multiple choice question. i was trying to find out why that wasn't the correct answer:
it was stating that
##P \left( X-Y=0 \right)=1##

hence i was trying to compute it
 
DottZakapa said:
it was a question in a multiple choice question. i was trying to find out why that wasn't the correct answer:
it was stating that
##P \left( X-Y=0 \right)=1##

hence i was trying to compute it

Do you have the verbatim problem statement?
 
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etotheipi said:
Do you have the verbatim problem statement?
Sometimes it is so surprising to see what details are left out of the official problem statement.
 
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Yes, I agree with that answer.
 
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etotheipi said:
Do you have the verbatim problem statement?
😂 me too but, i want to know/understand why P[X-Y=]=1 is not correct.
 
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DottZakapa said:
😂 me too but, i want to know/understand why P[X-Y=]=1 is not correct.

Well if the two continuous random variables are independent then it's definitely not true, since we could have, for instance ##X = 1## and ##Y = 33##. And a whole load of other combinations with ##X \neq Y##. Even if they are dependent, you will still generally have combinations with ##X \neq Y##.

If you impose a constraint that e.g. ##X =Y##, like @Math_QED explained nicely above, then you might well find that ##P(X-Y = 0) = 1##. But in general case that's not true.
 
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Some other easy examples. The first is a discrete one, the second a continuous one.

Flip a fair coin. We have ##\Omega = \{H,T\}##, that is either we end up with heads or tails. The random variables ##I_{\{H\}}## (indicator function on the set ##\{H\}##) and ##I_{\{T\}}## are identical distributed yet they are unequal everywhere.

Let ##U## be a uniform distribution on ##[-1,1]##. Then ##-U## has the same distribution yet they are not identic.
 
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