Two slit diffraction and energy conservation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of energy conservation in the context of two-slit diffraction and interference patterns. Participants explore the relationship between intensity distributions resulting from interference and diffraction, questioning how energy is conserved when introducing diffraction effects.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that the average intensity after the slits should be 2I, but introducing diffraction results in a lower average intensity, leading to confusion about where the energy is lost.
  • Another participant suggests that comparing averages between different situations may not be valid, proposing instead to compare the incoming energy with that leaving the slits.
  • A third participant introduces Parseval's theorem, stating that energy conservation is guaranteed through the relationship between fields in the slit plane and the observation plane, implying that energy is conserved despite the introduction of diffraction.
  • A later reply expresses difficulty in intuitively understanding energy conservation when diffraction is involved, proposing that a normalization constant may be necessary to ensure energy conservation in the diffraction case.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the intuitive understanding of energy conservation in the presence of diffraction. Multiple competing views remain regarding how to interpret the relationship between intensity and energy conservation.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the comparison of intensity distributions and the implications of introducing diffraction effects. The discussion highlights the complexity of relating different physical scenarios without definitive conclusions.

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Hi all,
I have a small misunderstanding about the energy conservation in diffraction from 2 slits.
First, I understand the energy conservation of interference from 2 slits.
If intensity from each slit is I, then I have intensity of 2I after slits plane.
Interference is given by:
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So at bright fringes I get cos^2=1, so intensity is 4I. And in dark fringes I get cos^2=0, so intensity is 0.
Since interference just distributes the intensity over screen, the cos^2 pattern with 4I maximum and 0 minimum, on average, results in a 2I intensity, as just after the slits plane.
Now I add the diffraction, i.e. multiply by sinc^2. This leads to a lower intensity pattern compared to the case of pure interference, so averaged intensity will be lower then 2I. Where the energy is lost?
 
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You are comparing averages between two different situations... no special reason the averages have to be the same.
Instead, compare the incoming energy with that leaving the slits.
 
LmdL said:
Where the energy is lost?
The fields in the slit plane and in the observation plane is connected through Fourier transform in the case of far-field diffraction, therefore you don't need to worry about energy conservation because it is guaranteed by Parseval's theorem
$$
\int |E(x)|^2 dx = \int |\tilde{E}(x')|^2 dx'
$$
where ##\tilde{E}(x') = FT[E(x)]##, ##x## is coordinate in the slit plane, and ##x'## the coordinate in the observation plane.
 
Still didn't get it. I understand that this must be true (energy is conserved) and even understand why it's true (intuitive) for the interference case. But when the diffraction is introduced, I cannot get it in intuitive way. The only explanation I can think of is that I don't multiply by sinc^2 in the diffraction case, but rather by Asinc^2, where A is some normalization constant which ensures energy conservation. So the overall picture will look like that:
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And not like that:
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