U-Substitution in trig integral

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The discussion revolves around the integral of a trigonometric function involving cosecant and cotangent, specifically the expression ##\int \frac{\csc{x}\cot{x}}{1+\csc^2{x}}dx##. The original poster attempts to apply u-substitution with ##u = \csc{x}## but encounters confusion regarding the correctness of their derivation and the resulting expression.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster describes their attempt at solving the integral using u-substitution and expresses uncertainty about where their derivation went wrong. Some participants suggest that the issue may lie in the boundaries of the functions involved, while others highlight the importance of simplifying the integral to understand its behavior better.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the integral and its properties. Some have pointed out potential issues with the constants of integration and the conditions under which the integrand is defined. There is a recognition of the need for simplification in approaching the problem.

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Participants note that the integrand is undefined at certain points (specifically at ##x = k\pi##) and discuss the implications of this on the overall solution. There is also mention of differing constants of integration between the two forms of the integral being compared.

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Homework Statement
##\int \frac{\csc{x}\cot{x}}{1+\csc^2{x}}dx##
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U-Sub
##\int \frac{\csc{x}\cot{x}}{1+\csc^2{x}}dx##

Let ##u = \csc{x}##

then

##-du = \csc{x}\cot{x}dx##

So,

##\int \frac{\csc{x}\cot{x}}{1+\csc^2{x}}dx##

##-\int \frac{1}{1+u^2}du = -\arctan{u} + C##

##-\arctan{\csc{x}} + C##

This answer was wrong. The actual answer involved fully simplifying the fraction and using

##u = \sin{x}##.

I understand how this approach is done and it makes complete sense.

What I'm confused about is where I went wrong in my derivation. I don't see my mistake, and the only difference is I ended up with ##\csc{x}## and a negative sign.

Could you help me spot my error? Usually bad u-subs makes things harder so I must've made a dumb subtle mistake I can't see.
 
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fresh_42 said:
I suspect that the mistake is hidden in the boundaries. ##\tan^{-1}(\sin(x))+\tan^{-1}(\csc(x))## is a step function:
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=arctan(sin(x))+++arctan(1/sin(x))=

Interesting...I suppose this makes it clear why you should simplify as much as possible to get to the meat of the integral. The graphs are only equal at the "peaks". Fascinating.
 
ago01 said:
Interesting...I suppose this makes it clear why you should simplify as much as possible to get to the meat of the integral. The graphs are only equal at the "peaks". Fascinating.
What peaks?

One issue here is that the constants of integration differ. Another issue is that the integrand for the integral
##\displaystyle \int \frac{\csc{x}\cot{x}}{1+\csc^2{x}}dx ##
is undefined at ## x = k\pi##, where ##k## is an integer.. On the other hand the integrand for
##\displaystyle \int \frac{\cos{x}}{1+\sin^2{x}}dx ##
it is defined for all ##x## .

The graph suggested by @fresh_42 shows that
##\displaystyle \tan^{-1}(\sin(x))##
and
##\displaystyle -\tan^{-1}(\csc(x)) ##
differ by
##\pm \dfrac \pi 2 ## .
 
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