Uncertainty Principle Questions PLease HELP

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The discussion revolves around the uncertainty principle in quantum mechanics, specifically focusing on calculating the minimum uncertainty in energy for a charged pi meson and an atomic state based on their respective lifetimes. Participants are attempting to apply the uncertainty relation, which connects energy and time uncertainties.

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  • Participants are discussing the application of the uncertainty principle equation, questioning the correct form and constants involved. There is confusion about unit conversions, particularly converting nanoseconds to seconds, and the correct value of Planck's constant.

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Some participants have provided guidance on unit conversions and the correct interpretation of the uncertainty principle. However, there is still uncertainty regarding the application of the equation and the calculations leading to the answers provided. Multiple interpretations of the uncertainty principle are being explored.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can reference. There is an ongoing discussion about the accuracy of the equations used and the constants involved, indicating potential misunderstandings of the underlying principles.

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Uncertainty Principle Questions!PLease HELP!

Homework Statement


1. Since a charged pi meson at rest exists on average for only 26 ns, its energy cannot be measured with unlimited precision. Determine the minimum uncertainty in the meson's rest energy.
2. Determine the minimum uncertainty in energy of an atomic state if the state lasts for .10 us?

Homework Equations


delta(E) *delta(t) = h/2pi


The Attempt at a Solution


1. answer is 2x10^-27J..but I don't know how to get this answer.
2. answer is 5.3 x10^-28J..I don't know how to get this answer using the equation above.
I used h=6.63 x10^-34...but didn't get the right answers..
Please help!
 
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Go back and check your references on the uncertainty principle; you have the equation wrong. It should be
\Delta E \Delta t = \frac{\hbar}{2}
 


ok. but h=6.63x10^-34Js? right? 26ns should converted into what?
 


Again just make sure the units balance

energy (J) * time (s) = h_bar (Js) / 2
So you just need time in seconds, 26ns is 26x10^-9 s

Note that h_bar is h/2pi
 


SAT2400 said:

Homework Equations


delta(E) *delta(t) = h/2pi

There should be an approximate sign in the above equation, not an equal sign.

\Delta E \Delta t \approx \hbar

There is a more formal equation for the minimum uncertainty (and it is slightly different than the above equation). It involves the the standard deviations of E and t (normally represented by \sigma _E and \sigma _t respectively), and it contains an 'equals' sign*. There is also a unit-less constant involved too, but you can look up the equation and you'll know what I'm talking about.

*The general form of the formal uncertainty equation involves a \geq sign, but since we're talking about minimum uncertainty, it reduces to an = sign for this special case.

(By the way, \hbar = h/2 \pi.)
 


2. answer is 5.3 x10^-28J..I don't know how to get this answer using the equation above. I used h=6.63 x10^-34Js and .1x10^-6s?...but didn't get the right answers..
 


SAT2400 said:
2. answer is 5.3 x10^-28J..I don't know how to get this answer using the equation above. I used h=6.63 x10^-34Js and .1x10^-6s?...but didn't get the right answers..

Please show your work. :-p

Okay, somebody has essentially given you that

\sigma _E \sigma _t \geq \frac{\hbar}{2}

and \hbar = 1.054571628×10-34 J·s.

So you know \sigma _t and \hbar, so the minimum possible \sigma _E must be... :wink:
 

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