Uncovering the Source of Extra 267 J in Standard Incandescent Light Bulb

Click For Summary
The discussion centers on the discrepancy between the electrical power input and the radiant power output of standard incandescent light bulbs. Calculations suggest that a bulb radiates around 367 watts at a filament temperature of approximately 2500 K, while it is rated for only 100 watts of electrical power. Participants explore whether the extra energy could be stored in the filament, but clarify that the filament does not burn and is not a consumable. They also debate the assumptions made about the filament's surface area and emissivity, noting that coiling affects radiation absorption and output. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the complexities of accurately modeling the physics of incandescent bulbs.
  • #31
I see. So then if you want to dissipate 100 watts you have to balance length and thickness to get the resistance at the right amount and also keep the temperature from either being too low (which will make a dim, inefficient bulb) or too high (reducing filament life).

Also, do you know if my assumption is post #13 about using less surface area in the calculation is accurate at all?
 
Science news on Phys.org
  • #32
I said heat, not temperature. The thing that destroys bulbs is heat.

I am not sure how important the shadowing effect is. If you model a coil as a hollow tube, the light's dependence on the inner radius is only through the thickness of the tube and thus its resistivity.
 
  • #33
Vanadium 50 said:
I said heat, not temperature. The thing that destroys bulbs is heat.

I don't know what you mean by this. Could you elaborate?
 
  • #34
I don't have a reference but I recall coiling a filament reduces failure due to thermal shock. Time lapse movies of lights turning on show considerable vibration due to sudden temperature changes.
 
  • #35
Drakkith said:
I don't know what you mean by this. Could you elaborate?

Heat and temperature are two different quantities - I can stick my hand in a 350 degree oven without injury, but I can't stick it in a 212 degree pot of boiling water. I wrote heat because I meant heat. That's all I meant.
 

Similar threads

Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
Replies
9
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
37K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
9K
Replies
14
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
7K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
5K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K