Understand physics vs engineering

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The discussion centers on the distinction between physics and engineering, emphasizing that physics involves theoretical thinking and problem-solving, while engineering focuses on applying that knowledge. A significant point raised is that most physicists work in condensed-matter physics, particularly in semiconductor technology, which is a lucrative field. Only about 4% of physics undergraduates pursue pure physics in graduate studies, with many entering engineering or financial analysis roles instead. The conversation also touches on the importance of physicists in various industries and the potential increase in demand for particle physicists with the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) becoming operational. Overall, the dialogue highlights the diverse career paths available to physics graduates and the collaborative nature of their work with engineers.
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I understand physics vs engineering, is like thinking/solving vs applying. But waht exactly does a physicist do? could I get a few examples? Also how is Ohio U. in terms of undergrad for bothy physics and engineering, I may be getting a full ride. Thanks for the help.
 
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The majority of working physicists (as of 2006) are working in condensed-matter physics, which essentially is the physics of semiconductors and other solid-state materials. There are many, many other kinds of opportunities for physicists, but semiconductor technology is currently an extremely profitable enterprise and has the economic strength to employ a large number of physicists.

Keep in mind, however, that only ~4% (yes, fewer than one in twenty) of physics undergraduates ever go on to actually study pure physics. The majority end up working with engineers, and a significant minority end up doing financial analysis.

- Warren
 
i understand physics majors are prized in many fields, say medicine, because they are smart, have intuition, and know how to learn, reason and solve problems.
 
chroot said:
Keep in mind, however, that only ~4% (yes, fewer than one in twenty) of physics undergraduates ever go on to actually study pure physics. The majority end up working with engineers, and a significant minority end up doing financial analysis.

And the condensed-matter industry hires people from those 4% or from undergrads too?
 
quasar987 said:
And the condensed-matter industry hires people from those 4% or from undergrads too?


Both.

Really only 4%?

Wow. Half of our last graduating class went to grad school (out of thirty).
 
I no longer have the statistics nearby to show the 4% figure, but they were on a bulletin board in my university's physics department. People who work alongside engineers are no longer "pure" physicists, of course.

- Warren
 
chroot said:
I no longer have the statistics nearby to show the 4% figure, but they were on a bulletin board in my university's physics department. People who work alongside engineers are no longer "pure" physicists, of course.

- Warren


Hmm. I took the 4% to mean "went on to physics PhD" but I suppose its probably narrower than that.
 
I guess the statistic just means people who end up being theorists or experimentalists, working on pure physics experiments.

- Warren
 
Were those statistics based on PHD Graduates or both PHD and undergrads?
 
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Just undergraduates. Don't quote me on it, I no longer have the source of the info.

- Warren
 
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... or you could read an entry of my deleted journal that Greg had somehow rescued onto the PhysicsPost site.

http://www.physicspost.com/science-article-210.html

Zz.
 
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Wow, that statistic makes me deppressed. : (
 
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who says engineers don't think and solve problems? A better distinction is a physicist creates knowledge and an engineer applies this knowledge. Both solve problems, and both definitely have to think, and both are equally important.
 
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With the LHC coming online soon, you can expect the number of particle physicists to jump up a few notches (read: orders of magnitude). It'll be like the 1960's all over again...
 
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Ah wow you think? That would be nice.
 
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what would an industrial physicist do?
 
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joelperr said:
With the LHC coming online soon, you can expect the number of particle physicists to jump up a few notches (read: orders of magnitude). It'll be like the 1960's all over again...

That sounds cool, but why? can you give me some links? It would help me a ton.
 

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