Understand Splitting Patterns for NMR Molecules

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Determining splitting patterns for molecules can be challenging, particularly when analyzing the CH2 group in a given structure. The discussion highlights confusion around calculating the value of "n," which represents the number of neighboring hydrogen atoms influencing the splitting pattern. Initially, there is uncertainty about whether the splitting pattern results in a doublet quartet or a pentet. It is clarified that equivalent hydrogens should be treated as a group, with both CH3 groups having equivalent hydrogens, leading to a potential n=4 and a resulting pentet. However, the discussion suggests that the initial assessment may have been more accurate, with the possibility of observing a quintet due to similar J values affecting the appearance of the spectrum. The conversation also addresses which part of the molecule is likely to resonate downfield, indicating that the CH group, particularly in terminal alkynes, typically resonates at lower fields due to its electronic environment. Participants suggest exploring additional resources for further clarification on these concepts.
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I am struggling to understand how to determine splitting patterns for molecules. For example, (see attached) I was trying to determine the splitting pattern for CH2 in the molecule. On the right i believe n is equal to 1 and on the right it is equal to 3, but i am not sure if this is correct. A doublet quartet doesn't make any sense to me and that is what i seem to conclude. The addition of the OH is really throwing me off. Also, on top of that how would i begin to determine which is farthest down field! Any help would be great!
 

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I think that i am miss understanding how to determine which are equivalent hydrogen's. Equivalent hydrogen's act as a group. On both CH3's all the hydrogen's are equivalent. so "n" for both CH3's are equal to one. Thus i think it may be n=4 and n+1=5 so the splitting pattern would be a pentet? Can confirm that i am right?
 
You were more right the first time. It may be that the J values are similar so it looks like a quintet, but this is just a resolution thing. As to which is more downfield, what kind of groups have downfield resonances in general?
 
I agree, but what i wrote the first time is something i learned outside of my notes. A pentet was something in my notes. So a pentet is possible? and i think that it would be the the part of the molecule with the fewest hydrogens...so CH i think would be the farthest downfield?
 
A quintet would be more possible if you were only coupling to a nucleus with spin I=2, it's certainly not impossible.

I agree that the CH would be the most down field, but not because it has the fewest hydrogens. The CH in terminal alkynes for instance resonates at about δ3-4 from memory. Look into the electronic environment of the protons. I can see a similar thread on chemicalforums.com; it may be worth looking there too.
 
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