Understanding Adiabatic Expansion in Thermodynamics

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The discussion revolves around deriving the relationship for adiabatic expansion in thermodynamics, specifically the expression PV^γ as a constant for ideal gases. Participants are exploring the implications of the first law of thermodynamics and the ideal gas law in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to derive the constant nature of PV^γ during adiabatic expansion and are discussing various equations related to work done in the process. Questions are raised about the derivation of specific formulas and the integration of expressions related to heat flow and internal energy.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the derivation process and clarifying parts of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of the first law of thermodynamics and the ideal gas law, but no consensus has been reached on the derivation steps.

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Participants are working under the assumption that heat flow is zero during the adiabatic process, and there are references to specific equations and integration techniques that may require further exploration.

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Can anyone here help me to derive that during an adiabatic expansion, PV^gamma?is a constant, as well as other expressions similar to the above?
I have found the following equation using definite integration and the basic formulae, nRdT/gamma - 1 = work done.
 
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vaishakh,
You can prove [tex]P V^{\gamma}[/tex] is constant for an ideal gas in an adiabatic process from the first law ( [itex]dU = dQ - pdV , dQ=0)[/itex] and the ideal gas law [itex](pV=nRT)[/itex].
How did you get your formula nRdT/gamma - 1 = work done.?
 
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vaishakh said:
Can anyone here help me to derive that during an adiabatic expansion, PV^gamma?is a constant, as well as other expressions similar to the above?
Since heat flow (Q) is zero, use:

[tex]nC_VdT = dU = PdV[/tex] and

[tex]VdP + PdV = nRdT = n(C_P - C_V)dT[/tex]

This will give two expressions for ndT. Integrate both expressions.
I have found the following equation using definite integration and the basic formulae, nRdT/gamma - 1 = work done.
This follows from the adiabatic condition. One can express the work as:

[tex]W = \int_{V_i}^{V_f} PdV = \int_{V_i}^{V_f} \frac{PV^\gamma}{V^\gamma}dV = K\int_{V_i}^{V_f} \frac{dV}{V^\gamma}[/tex]
Work that out to get the expression for Work.

AM
 
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Thanks for clearing the second part Andrew.
 

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