Understanding Angular Momentum Measurements: Equations and Solutions

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The discussion revolves around the measurements of angular momentum, specifically the operator Lz in quantum mechanics. Participants explore the mathematical representation of the wave function and its relation to spherical harmonics, as well as the implications of quantum numbers on the possible measurements.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the expansion of the sine function in terms of complex exponentials and the implications for the quantum numbers m and l. There are attempts to express the wave function using spherical harmonics and questions about the normalization of coefficients.

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The conversation is active, with participants providing insights into the normalization of wave functions and the conditions under which certain terms, like Y(1,0), may or may not be necessary. There is a recognition of the need to ensure that the coefficients sum to one, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of quantum mechanics, particularly the definitions of quantum numbers and the normalization conditions for wave functions. There is an ongoing examination of assumptions regarding the terms included in the wave function representation.

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Homework Statement


What are the possible measurements for Lz



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[tex]\psi(\theta,\phi) = \sqrt{\frac{3}{4 \pi}} sin(\phi) sin(\theta)[/tex]
probability Lz quantum


The Attempt at a Solution


Well I'm sure I can expand [tex]sin(\phi)= \frac{e^{i \phi}-e^{-i \phi}}{2 i}[/tex]
Getting m=1,-1.
[tex]\psi(\theta,\phi) = \sqrt{\frac{3}{4 \pi}} sin(\theta) \frac{e^{i \phi}-e^{-i \phi}}{2 i}[/tex]
Should the the probability be the coefficents mod squared?
 
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Yes, but you have to keep track of normalization; the coefficients should be those of normalized eigenfunctions of Lz. I suggest writing psi in terms of spherical harmonics.
 
you are working with two quantum numbers, If I remember correctly you have add up the normalized coefficients squared by increasing their orbital quantum number l up to m.
 
ok. So:
[tex]\psi=\frac{\sqrt{2}i}{2}\left(Y_{1,1}+Y_{1,-1}\right)[/tex] with everything sorted
I have equal probability of measuring [tex]\pm \hbar[/tex] for [tex]L_z[/tex], right?
 
Wait, what I typed can't be right. m has to be -1,0,1 since l=1. so in terms of spherical harmonics I should have one more term [tex]Y_{1,0}[/tex] and then normalize that. That makes more sense.
 
You don't need a Y(1,0) A priori.

If your psi in post 4 equals the psi in Relevant equations in your first post, then it is ok.

You also check the normalizability of your result in post #4 by simply integrating it over [itex]r^2 d\Omega[/itex] and see if you indeed get 1.

Y(1,0) is proportional to cos(theta), and you only have sin(theta), so you should not expect a Y(1,0) term.
 
malawi_glenn said:
You don't need a Y(1,0) A priori.

If your psi in post 4 equals the psi in Relevant equations in your first post, then it is ok.

You also check the normalizability of your result in post #4 by simply integrating it over [itex]r^2 d\Omega[/itex] and see if you indeed get 1.

Y(1,0) is proportional to cos(theta), and you only have sin(theta), so you should not expect a Y(1,0) term.
ok.
In post four the coefficents work out since[tex]\Sigma |c_k|^2=1[/tex]
 
Winzer said:
Wait, what I typed can't be right. m has to be -1,0,1 since l=1. so in terms of spherical harmonics I should have one more term [tex]Y_{1,0}[/tex] and then normalize that. That makes more sense.
You could consider the coefficient of [tex]Y^1_0[/tex] to be 0 ;-)
 

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