Understanding Arcsin and L'Hopital: Finding the Limit of (arcsin(2x))/x^3

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The discussion revolves around finding the limit of the function (arcsin(2x))/x^3 as x approaches 0, specifically focusing on the application of L'Hopital's Rule and the behavior of the arcsin function near zero.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the validity of applying L'Hopital's Rule, questioning the limit behavior of arcsin(2x) as x approaches 0. There is discussion about approximations for small values of arcsin and the implications for limits.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts on the limit and the conditions for applying L'Hopital's Rule. Some participants express confusion about the behavior of arcsin near zero, while others provide clarifications and references to continuity in functions.

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There is mention of needing to express arcsin(2x) as a ratio to apply L'Hopital's Rule, indicating a potential gap in understanding the function's behavior at the limit. Additionally, there are references to prior knowledge of trigonometric functions that may influence the discussion.

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Hey guys, have a questions about L'Hopital and arcsin.

The question is to find the limit of (arcsin(2x))/x^3 as x->0. I can find the limit no problem just by applying L'Hopital, but I am having difficulty proving that it's valid to use L'Hopital with the function, because with f(x)=arcsin(2x), the limit of arcsin(2x) as x->0 is 2x, rather than 0 or infinity as is required. I think I may have to express arcsin(2x) as a ratio and then apply L'Hopital again, but I can't figure out how to do that. Thanks for any help!
 
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that is strange, I thought lim (y ->0) arcsin(y) = 0
 
I thought that for very small values of sin or arcsin, sin(x) roughly = x? So that if you take the limit as x->0, it will never be 0, but just the input? This is hard to explain - the function doesn't "get closer" to anything as it approaches 0, it just oscillates around the value inputted - so it can't really be said to have a limit as x->0?

Or is that all totally off-base?

EDIT: Yeah, it is. I just needed to read over my trig notes a bit closer. Thanks malawi for putting me back on track...!
 
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I thought that for very small values of sin or arcsin, sin(x) roughly = x? So that if you take the limit as x->0, it will never be 0, but just the input? This is hard to explain - the function doesn't "get closer" to anything as it approaches 0, it just oscillates around the value inputted - so it can't really be said to have a limit as x->0?

Or is that all totally off-base?

EDIT: Yeah, it is. I just needed to read over my trig notes a bit closer. Thanks malawi for putting me back on track...!

No, the limit, as x--> 0 is NUMBER. In general, if f(x) is a continuous function,
\lim_{x\rightarrowa}f(g(x))= f(\lim_{x\rightarrowa}g(x)).
 

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