Understanding Complex Contour Integrals: A Challenging Homework Problem

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The discussion revolves around evaluating a complex contour integral involving the logarithm function, specifically the integral of Log(z)/z around a circle of radius 1 centered at the origin, starting and ending at z=-1. Participants are exploring the implications of the logarithm's branch cut and its holomorphic properties.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to express the integral in terms of a parameterization and questioning the correctness of their calculations. There are discussions about the use of the Cauchy Integral formula and the implications of the logarithm not being holomorphic at certain points. Some participants are considering alternative contour integration methods.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their attempts and questioning the validity of their approaches. There is recognition of the challenges posed by the branch cut of the logarithm and the need for careful consideration of the contour's properties. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, and some guidance has been provided regarding the use of the Cauchy Integral formula.

Contextual Notes

Participants are noting the potential issues with the limits of integration and the behavior of the logarithm near the origin, which complicates the application of certain integration techniques. There is an acknowledgment of the contour's closure and the need to avoid singularities in the integration process.

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Homework Statement



Let C be the contou starting at z=-1 going around the circle lzl=1 and ending back at z=-1 (counterclockwise) determine. Int. (Log(z)/z) dz.


Homework Equations



z=e^(Log(z))


The Attempt at a Solution



So I've been stuck on this problem for quite some time.

Im not sure if the integral is suppose to be broken up into:

Int f(z(t))*z'(t) dt.

If so, I'm unsure what to call my f(z) and my z(t).
I tried calculating:

z(t)=e^it
z'(t)=ie^it
Log(z(t))=Log(e^it)=it

Then

(0,pi)Int((it/e^it)*ie^it) dt
= (0,pi)Int (-t) dt
= -pi.

I'm sure this isn't correct.
Any help would be appreciated.
 
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The integral of t from 0 to pi isn't pi. Is it?
 
Dick said:
The integral of t from 0 to pi isn't pi. Is it?

Ha. I got ahead of myself and didn't even compute the integral.

(0,pi)Int(-t) dt
= -t^2/2 evaluated at (0,pi)
= -pi^2/2

Is this on the right track? Should the bounds be changed? Or is my integral entirely incorrect?
 
ryanj123 said:
Ha. I got ahead of myself and didn't even compute the integral.

(0,pi)Int(-t) dt
= -t^2/2 evaluated at (0,pi)
= -pi^2/2

Is this on the right track? Should the bounds be changed? Or is my integral entirely incorrect?

It looks right to me. Any reason to doubt it?
 
why doesn't this work using the Cauchy Integral formula?

i set f(z)=log z and a=0 but then f(a)=f(0)=-infinity.

that's how it doesn't work but what's the reason for this?
is it because f isn't holomorphic on the unit disc? (and it's not holomorphic because it "blows up" at z=0)
 
latentcorpse said:
why doesn't this work using the Cauchy Integral formula?

i set f(z)=log z and a=0 but then f(a)=f(0)=-infinity.

that's how it doesn't work but what's the reason for this?
is it because f isn't holomorphic on the unit disc? (and it's not holomorphic because it "blows up" at z=0)

I don't know what that's supposed to be about. You want to integrate Log(z)/z, not Log(z) and the limits are 1 to -1, not 0 to 'a' whatever that is. If you are asking why you can't do it as an antiderivative, you can. As long as you're careful about not crossing branch cuts. Evaluate (Log(z))^2/2 between 1 and -1.
 
i haven't done anything with the Cauchy integral formula in a while...can you talk me through the procedure here:

we have [itex]f(a)=\oint \frac{f(z)}{z-a}dz[/itex]

so why can't we set f(z)=log z and a=0 then the RHS is just [itex]\oint \frac{\log{z}}{z} dz[/itex] and it will be equal to the LHS [itex]f(a)=f(0)=\log{0}=-\infty[/itex]
i think the reason this doesn't work is because the f i have used in this case isn't holomorphic on the region we are integrating over i.e. at z=0 it has a pole (is that correct?)

so what should i use for my f(z)?

thanks.
 
Well, yeah. Log isn't holomorphic in the disk. It's worse than a pole, it has a branch cut. The given contour isn't even closed. You can't really integrate around anything. You have to find another way to solve it. There are two alternative methods in this thread.
 
ok. so you can't use the formula because log isn't holomorphic. but the contour is closed surely? its a circle of radius 1 from z=-1 to z=-1 isn't it?
 
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Yes, but there's a branch cut, so somewhere on that circle log won't even be defined, or at least is discontinuous
 
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latentcorpse said:
ok. so you can't use the formula because log isn't holomorphic. but the contour is closed surely? its a circle of radius 1 from z=-1 to z=-1 isn't it?

Hmm. I was paying more attention to the limits of integration in the attempt. If the first z=-1 isn't a typo then ryanj123 had better rework the limits.
 
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would this be possible using a semicircular contour from z=1 to z=-1 then along the real axis to z=1 again but with a small semicircular indent to avoid the origin and then use the Cauchy Residue Theorem?
 
  • #13
You don't know that the integral around that little indent around the origin goes to zero as it becomes small
 
  • #14
why not? because log goes to infinity at 0?
 

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