Understanding Faraday's Law: Coil in Magnetic Field

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The discussion centers on understanding Faraday's Law in the context of a coil in a magnetic field, specifically regarding the independence of total charge (Q) from the rate of change of magnetic flux (dΦ/dt). The author expresses confusion about how the charge flowing through the circuit can remain constant despite variations in flux rate, referencing Faraday's equation for electromotive force (EMF). Participants clarify that the final expression for charge should reflect the difference in initial and final magnetic flux over time, indicating that Q is determined by the total change in flux rather than its rate of change. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly interpreting the variables involved, particularly the initial and final flux values. Ultimately, the conclusion is that the total charge is indeed independent of the rate of change of flux, as long as the total change in flux is considered.
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Homework Statement



Actually this is not exactly a homework. I am trying to understand the following situation only.



Consider a ring shaped coil of N turns and area A. Connect it to an external circuit with a twisted pair of leads ( this info is trivial). The resistance of the circuit along with the coil itself is R. Now the coil in a magnetic field.

Suppose the flux through the coil is somehow altered from its initial steady state value (A) to final value (B).

The author claims that the total charge Q that flows through the circuit as a result is independent of the rate of change of the flux. I am having hard time understanding this. Can anyone help me understand it.



Homework Equations



\oint E.dl = -d\Phi/dt



The Attempt at a Solution



faraday's law is the most relevant law here, according to the book. But I am just not getting what the author is saying.
 
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I think this lecture covers a lot of what you want to know.
http://ocw.mit.edu/ans7870/8/8.02/videolectures/wl-802-lec16-220k.ram

(Requires Real Player, if that's not a problem for you.)

About 11 minutes in if you are in a rush.
 
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thanks,

i followed the video. It was helpful.

However, i am still not sure about independence of charge with the rate of change of flux. On applying faraday's law

EMF = -Nd\Phi/dt

In the condition mention in the question above, B is the final M_flux A and the initial M_flux. We are trying to derive Q such that it is independent of d\Phi/dt.

I am confused with initial and final magentic flux. On just using d\Phi/dt, here is what i got

I = Nd\Phi cos(theta)/dt*(R)

and I = dQ/dt

But still Q is dependent on d\Phi/dt.

Any clue ?
 
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What is cos theta here? And try equating the expression for I with V/R where V is as given by Faraday's law.
 
cosine theta is a mistake here. It has to be omitted.

Yeah, i did use Ohm's law there.

But my confusion at this point is, since the final and initial fluxes are given, in Faraday's formula, should emf beemf = -N d(B-A)/dt or just -N d(flux)/dt ?

The final expression is supposed to show that Q is independent of rate of change of flux
 
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It should be emf = -\frac{B-A}{\delta t}.
 
did you forget N ?
 
No I didn't. N was already included in both B and A. Remember that B, A are themselves the flux through the coil. Anyway it should make no difference in the solution.
 
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