I Understanding Image & Pre-Image: An Example

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The discussion focuses on understanding the concepts of image and pre-image using the function f(x) = x² defined on the domain D = [-1, 2]. The correct pre-image f⁻¹(D) is identified as [0, √2], excluding negative values since the function only produces non-negative outputs. The participants clarify that the inverse image is well-defined even if the set D is not fully contained within the function's range. Additionally, when considering F = [-4, -1], the pre-image f⁻¹(F) results in an empty set, unless the domain is extended to complex numbers. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly identifying the range and domain when working with functions and their inverses.
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I'm trying to understand image and pre image better but I am having a hard time finding good examples.

So here is one I did come across, let's say ##f:\mathbb{R} →\mathbb{R}## defined by ##f(x)=x^{2}##. Suppose also that ##D = [-1,2]## where ##D\subset \mathbb{R}##. If I'm looking for ##f^{-1}(D)## then I can only use ##D\setminus [-1,0)## in which case ##f^{-1}(D)=[-\sqrt{2},\sqrt{2}]##correct?
 
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Not correct. Rather, ##f^{-1}(D) = [-\sqrt{2}, \sqrt{2}]##, since ##f^{-1}(D)## is defined as the set of all ##x## such that ##f(x) \in D##. Also you can use ##D## and the inverse image is always well defined, even if ##D## is not completely contained in the range ##f(\mathbb{R})##. In fact, ##f^{-1}((-\infty, 2]) = [-\sqrt{2}, \sqrt{2}]##.

P.S. You really want double hashtags to begin and end a latex formula, rather than code
 
Lucas SV said:
Not correct. Rather, ##f^{-1}(D) = [0, \sqrt{2}]##, since ##f^{-1}(D)## is defined as the set of all ##x## such that ##f(x) \in D##.

P.S. You really want double hashtags to begin and end a latex formula, rather than code

Can you explain why ## f^{-1}(D) = [0,\sqrt{2}]## ? Why would we not include ##[-\sqrt{2},0]## in our pre-image? Explain please.
 
mikeyBoy83 said:
Can you explain why ## f^{-1}(D) = [0,\sqrt{2}]## ? Why would we not include ##[-\sqrt{2},0]## in our pre-image? Explain please.
My bad, I've made a mistake. Corrected it.
 
Lucas SV said:
My bad, I've made a mistake. Corrected it.

Okay, so what if we wanted to find ##f^{-1}(F)## using the same function with ##F=[-4,-1]##, in that case we would have ##∅##.
 
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mikeyBoy83 said:
Okay, so what if we wanted to find ##f^{-1}(F)## using the same function with ##F=[-4,-1]##, in that case we would have ##∅##.
Yes. Unless of course you decide to change domains to complex numbers.
 
Lucas SV said:
Yes. Unless of course you decide to change domains to complex numbers.

Of course :)
 

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