Understanding Leveling Procedures for Benchmark and Temporary Benchmark Points

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The discussion revolves around the procedures for leveling in surveying, specifically whether leveling must start and end at a benchmark or temporary benchmark of known elevation. Participants explore different methods and their implications for accuracy and error checking in leveling work.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that leveling can commence at a point of known elevation and end at a point of unknown elevation, questioning the necessity of starting and ending at a benchmark.
  • Others argue that leveling around a survey route from a fixed benchmark and returning to it serves as a reliable means of error checking, as cumulative changes in elevation should amount to zero.
  • There is a proposal that starting from a known point to an unknown point and back to the known point is effectively the same as starting and ending at a benchmark.
  • Some participants mention that simpler methods may be used for short distances, such as starting from a benchmark and proceeding in one direction.
  • Modern surveying techniques, including laser surveying and GPS, are noted as having made traditional methods less common.
  • Questions arise about the feasibility of starting from a known height and ending at a different point of unknown height, with requests for further clarification on this point.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether leveling must start and end at a benchmark, with some supporting the flexibility of starting from any known elevation while others emphasize the reliability of returning to a benchmark for error checking. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the necessity of benchmarks in all leveling procedures.

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Some limitations include the dependence on definitions of benchmarks and the potential for measurement errors in different leveling methods. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical or procedural nuances involved in these methods.

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is it a must that that the levelling work must commence and ends at benchmark or temporary benchmark of known point ?

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I think not , because we can commence the levelling work at a point of known elevation ( benchmark / temporary benchmark) and ends at point of unknown elevation
 
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Levelling around a survey route from one fixed bench mark and back to the same bench mark provides a very reliable means of error checking . If the cumulative changes in elevation around the survey route amount to zero when you get back to the known bench mark then the probability of having made measurement mistakes somewhere along the way is very small .
 
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Nidum said:
Levelling around a survey route from one fixed bench mark and back to the same bench mark provides a very reliable means of error checking . If the cumulative changes in elevation around the survey route amount to zero when you get back to the known bench mark then the probability of having made measurement mistakes somewhere along the way is very small .
How about leveling start from known point to unknown point and back to known point? known point here means the point where the height is known
 
chetzread said:
How about leveling start from known point to unknown point and back to known point? known point here means the point where the height is known

That is effectively the same thing . You can designate any fixed level as your benchmark level .

When levelling over relatively short distances - on for example a construction site - the simpler method of starting from a bench mark and just proceeding in one direction is sometimes used .

Modern laser surveying methods and coming of GPS have made most of the traditional surveying methods obsolete .
 
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Nidum said:
That is effectively the same thing . You can designate any fixed level as your benchmark level .

When levelling over relatively short distances - on for example a construction site - the simpler method of starting from a bench mark and just proceeding in one direction is sometimes used .

Modern laser surveying methods and coming of GPS have made most of the traditional surveying methods obsolete .
sorry , i mean how about levelling work start from a point where the height is known (benchmark) , and ends at a different point where the height is unknown ...
 
Nidum said:
That is effectively the same thing . You can designate any fixed level as your benchmark level .

When levelling over relatively short distances - on for example a construction site - the simpler method of starting from a bench mark and just proceeding in one direction is sometimes used .

Modern laser surveying methods and coming of GPS have made most of the traditional surveying methods obsolete .
Can you explain further ?
 
is it possible that levelling work start from a point where the height is known (benchmark) , and ends at a different point where the height is unknown ... ?
I have read thru the link that upu provided , but seems they doesn't explain about it .
 

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