Understanding Limit Current & Resistivity in Source Meter Machines

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of limit current in source meter machines and its relationship with resistivity. Participants explore the functionality of source meter machines, the significance of current limiting, and the implications for circuit protection.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the definition of limit current and its relationship to resistivity in source meter machines.
  • Another participant asks for clarification on what a "source meter machine" is and requests a reference to understand its function.
  • A link to a Wikipedia page is provided as a potential resource for understanding source meter machines.
  • Discussion includes the necessity of a current limiting resistor in series with LEDs to prevent excessive current, explaining the equilibrium reached between voltage and current.
  • One participant shares a specific example of a source meter unit and seeks to understand the physical meaning of current limit.
  • Another participant explains that current limiting on power supplies can prevent circuit damage by setting a maximum output current, which is crucial for protecting components.
  • A later reply discusses the concept of "active current limiting," describing how it functions in relation to output current and voltage adjustments, while noting that resistivity is not mentioned in the documentation provided.
  • Concerns are raised about the behavior of current limiting in the presence of capacitors at the output terminals, suggesting that momentary current draw may exceed the limit during capacitor discharge.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints regarding the definition and implications of limit current, with no consensus reached on the relationship between limit current and resistivity. The discussion includes both technical explanations and requests for clarification, indicating a mix of understanding and uncertainty.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific documentation and examples, but there are limitations in the discussion regarding the precise definitions and relationships between concepts such as limit current and resistivity. Some assumptions about the operation of source meter machines and current limiting mechanisms remain unaddressed.

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We see always in source meter machines a LED which indicates the limit current. I want to know what is the limit current and what is the relationship between this later and the resistivity.
 
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What is a "source meter machine" ?
 
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Hi chikou24i. Could you explain what your "source meter machines" do? Can you provide us with a URL to a site showing one, so we can establish what it is.
 
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Regardless of the application, LEDs need a current limiting resistor in series with them. That's because LEDs are diodes, and a diode will attempt to pass almost infinite current if you put anything but a very small voltage across it.

But with the resistor in series, as the current increases, more and more voltage is dropped across the resistor instead of the LED until a kind of equilibrium is reached. Adjusting the value of the resistor or voltage adjusts the current and thus the brightness.

The LED manufacturer specifies a maximum current, so you just need to pick a resistor that won't allow the current to exceed that maximum.
 
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OK guys this is an exemple of sourcemeter unit : http://www.es-france.com/produit538/product_info.html , But what I want to know is what means CURRENT LIMIT physically.
 
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OK guys this is an exemple of sourcemeter unit : http://www.es-france.com/produit538/product_info.html , But what I want to know is what means CURRENT LIMIT physically.

On a power supply like you have shown, many have a current limiting adjustment
This can be set to limit the current from the power supply to a maximum output
This can save the circuit being powered from "burning up"

That is one purpose of a current limiting

Dave
 
I think they make it fairly clear in the pdf documentation referenced
http://www.es-france.com/pdf/AX501.pdf?osCsid=552b012b969105dbebe981f664fa19ae
that the supply has active current limiting via the "Current Limit" knob beneath the ammeter.

AX502.jpg


"Active current limiting" means that the regulator compares output current to a set value, set via that knob, and reduces voltage to whatever value will provide only that much current.. An LED indicates when the current limiter has activated.I didn't see mention of "resistivity" in the documentation.

Be aware that some supplies have a substantial capacitor right at the output terminals. If the current limiter controls current into that capacitor, then one could momentarily draw more than limit current from the supply while that capacitor discharges into the load.

old jim
 
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