Understanding Polarized Light Through Polaroid Sheets

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving polarized and unpolarized light passing through a polaroid sheet. Participants are exploring how the transmitted intensity varies with the orientation of the polaroid and are tasked with determining the fraction of the original beam that is plane polarized, as well as its direction of polarization.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to relate the intensities of polarized and unpolarized light before and after passing through the polaroid. They discuss the maximum and minimum transmitted intensities and how these relate to the original intensities.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the intensities of polarized and unpolarized light. Some participants are clarifying their understanding of how the polarizer affects the light and are working through algebraic expressions to find the desired fraction. No consensus has been reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the assumptions regarding the behavior of ideal polarizers and the definitions of polarized versus unpolarized light. There are also mentions of specific conditions under which the transmitted intensity is calculated.

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1. *A beam of light that is a mixture of plane polarized and unpolarized light is incident on a sheet of polaroid. The trasmitted intensity varies as the sheet is rotated, having a maximum when the transmission axis is horizontal, and a minimum when it's vertical. If the maximum intensity is three times the minimum, what fraction of the intensity of the original beam is plane polarized, and what is it's direction of polarization?




Homework Equations


I=Imax*cos^2*theta
(polarized light passing through analyzer)


The Attempt at a Solution



Basically I have no idea with this one, except I'm pretty sure the answer to the last part is that its' direction of polarization is horizontal.
I also just guessed and played around with the fact that with an ideal polarizer the intensity of the transmitted light is half the incident unpolarized light, so I played around with:
Imin= I/2
Imax= 3*Imin
= 3*I/2
= 3/2*I
But that can't be right because its not a proper fraction..
Any help very much appreciated..
 
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Hi planesinspace,

I think you need to keep track of what happens to the unpolarized and polarized light separately. Before the light passes through the polarizer, let I_1 be the intensity of the unpolarized light, and I_2 be the intensity of the unpolarized light. So before the light goes through the polarizer the total intensity is I_1+I_2.

When the transmitted light is at a maximum, what is the transmitted intensity? What is it when it at a minimum? How are these two related? Once you have those conditions you can figure out how the original intensities are realated.
 
Hi, thanks for your help.

Oh ok, well I have so far
I(total)= I1 +I2
Where I1 is polarised light, and I2 is unpolarized.
Then, when the light is at a maximum, hence, there is light that is both polarized and unpolarized, the total intensity = 3*Imin = I1 + I2
and when its minimum, only unpolarized light is getting through, hence there is no I1, and Imin = I2 / 2 (because half the transmitted intensity continues, although i read that is only for ideal polaroids, so once again I'm not sure if I is I/2 or I..)
 
For the unpolarized light, after it passes through a polarizer, its intensity is half what it was before. So your minimum expression I_{\rm min} is correct.

However, you haven't taken that into accout for the maximum. At the maximum intensity, all of the polarized light's intensity passes through, but still only half of the unpolarized light's intensity.
 
So I have Imax= I1 + I2/2 = 3*Imin = 3/2*I2
So when determining what fraction of the total that is, that's where I get confused.
I1 + I2 = I total,
So can i say Itotal = I max, sorry for this confusion.
 
They want the fraction of the initial beam intensity that was plane polarized. This means they want:

\frac{I_1}{I_{\rm total}}

You already have

I_1+I_2=I_{\rm total}

and you also found:

I_1 +\frac{1}{2}I_2 = 3\left(\frac{1}{2}I_2\right)

These last two can give you a numeric value for the fraction you are looking for after some algebraic cancellation. What do you get?
 
Ok well i got I1 = I2 , which means Itotal = t*I2 ,
I1/Itotal = I2/ 2*I2, so a half?
 

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