Undergrad Understanding Simple Harmonic Motion: The Role of Frequency in Wave Equations

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The discussion centers on the derivation of Simple Harmonic Motion (SHM) equations, specifically how the proportionality constant in the force-displacement relationship relates to frequency. It is established that for a system with unit mass, this constant is equal to the square of the frequency measured in radians per second. The conversation emphasizes that the restoring force in SHM is always proportional to the negative displacement from the mean position, applicable to both pendulums and spring-mass systems. Textbooks on single degree of freedom (SDOF) systems provide comprehensive explanations of these principles.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Simple Harmonic Motion (SHM) principles
  • Familiarity with force-displacement relationships
  • Knowledge of single degree of freedom (SDOF) systems
  • Basic concepts of mechanical energy conservation
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the derivation of SHM equations in textbooks on dynamics
  • Learn about the relationship between frequency and angular frequency in SHM
  • Explore the dynamics of single degree of freedom (SDOF) systems
  • Investigate the role of restoring forces in various mechanical systems
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I was reading a book on wave and found that when they derive the equation of shm from the equation force varies with negetive displacement , they had taken a propotionality constant to make the force and displacement equal and they had taken frequency of the shm as the constant . So my question is , is there any derivation which can show that the constant is the frequency of the shm .
 
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It would help if you told us what the system was.
Spring and mass vertical or horizontal?
Pendulum?
?

The basis of SHM is always that the restoring force is proportional to the displacement (from the mean position). Since the force tends to return the system to the mean position is acts in the opposite direction to the displacement so one is negative.
 
It was for pendulum
 
I am not sure what your question is; anyway, the equations of shm could be derived by applying the principle of conservation of mechanical energy.
 
Let me show u the derivation .
We know that for shm


force varies as negetive displacement


therefore,
force equal to some constant times negetive displacement


they said that this constant is equal to the frequency of the shm . I want to know how ?
( sorry for writing all the equation in words cus my mobile doesn't support to write equations with some special charecters . )
 
Sorry to ask another question but I don't want to post something different from your course.

What definition of SHM are you using?
 
Shan K said:
So my question is , is there any derivation which can show that the constant is the frequency of the shm .

No, because the units mean that can't possibly be correct.

But for a system with unit mass, the constant is equal to the frequency squared (frequency measured in radians/second, not Hz).

This should be explained in any textbook or website about the dynamics of single degree of freedom (SDOF) systems.

For a pendulum, the "unit mass" part doesn't matter, since the force (i.e. weight) is proportional to the mass.
 
Studiot said:
Sorry to ask another question but I don't want to post something different from your course.

What definition of SHM are you using?

i don't have studied any kind of definition on shm . What i have studied is some properties of that like it has a restoring force
 

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