News Understanding the 2000 Republican Primaries: How Did Bush Beat McCain?

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The discussion centers on the retrospective evaluation of George W. Bush's presidency and the 2000 Republican primaries, particularly the competition between Bush and John McCain. Participants express a belief that McCain would have been a stronger candidate than Bush, with some liberals even stating they would have preferred McCain over Democratic candidate John Kerry. The conversation highlights the perception of Bush as a privileged figure lacking credibility compared to McCain, who is viewed favorably by both parties due to his war hero status. The discussion also touches on the tactics used by Bush's campaign, including slander and push polling, which were orchestrated by Karl Rove to undermine McCain's reputation. Additionally, there is a sentiment that corporate influence over media shapes public perception and electoral outcomes, contributing to the nomination of candidates like Kerry. Some participants indicate a willingness to switch their votes from Bush to McCain, underscoring a complex view of party loyalty and candidate preference.

What if McCain were thrown into the Republican ticket?

  • Intended to vote for Bush, would support Bush over McCain.

    Votes: 2 33.3%
  • Intended to vote for Bush, would support McCain over Bush.

    Votes: 1 16.7%
  • Intended to vote for Bush, would vote Kerry over McCain.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Intended to vote Kerry, would vote McCain over Kerry.

    Votes: 3 50.0%

  • Total voters
    6
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Is there anyone, Conservative or Liberal, who can honestly say that they think Bush was the right choice in retrospect, and that McCain would have done worse than Bush? I was just talking with a friend of mine, (we're both liberals), and we both agreed that it was pathetic Kerry would be the one to have to oust Bush, and that McCain would have been such an awesome candidate, and that we'd both support McCain over Kerry any day. Does anyone have any insight as to how Bush actually beat McCain? I mean, Bush was billed as the rich idiot who's riding his dad's fame all along, even since the 2000 Republican Primaries, wheras McCain's a war hero and just regarded so well by Democrats and Republicans.

Side note hypothetical situation: Let's say some major sh|t were to go down and in the eyes of the Republicans, Bush had lost credibility and had a slim chance of victory, and McCain challenged him for the GOP ticket. First of all, if you intended to vote Bush, would you support McCain over Bush, and if McCain won, would you change from voting GOP to Kerry, or Kerry to McCain?
 
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Would vote for McCain over Bush.
 
Bush beat McCain via slander and a push poll.

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Push_poll
http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/02/10/campaign.wrap/

McCain was called everything from a liar to a traitor to a coward. Carl Rove oversaw this all BTW.
 
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phatmonky said:
Would vote for McCain over Bush.

Exactly!

McCain=Conservative Republican
Bush=NeoCon (they have affiliated themselves with my party but they should not be called repubs IMO)
 
Bush beat McCain becuase coprate leaders control the media, which has strong control over public perception, and uses that power to elect people who will do their bidding. this is also why we have Kerry as the democratic nominee.
 
I would still vote for Kerry, even though McCain is my favorite Republican.
 
kyleb said:
Bush beat McCain becuase coprate leaders control the media, which has strong control over public perception, and uses that power to elect people who will do their bidding. this is also why we have Kerry as the democratic nominee.
Well, that may be part of it, but I think the main reason was Howard Deans actions all on his own. :smile:

By the way, I voted "Intended to vote Kerry, would vote for McCain."
 

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